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Old 07-24-2017   #31
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Gotta know your plain old electric "Flashcubes"
from the later "MagicCubes". The former has 4
twin pairs of electric contacts. The latter has 4
mechanical spring triggers. It uses no electricity
and you can trip the triggers with a pen point or
any similar object if you wanna set off the flash
without a camera [warning: gets HOT in hand].

A MagicCube extender [anti-red-eye thing] is a
good way to fire off MagicCubes without risk of
blistering your fingers.

And that's a fact. You can look it up

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_(photography)
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Awwww ... no fair ! no fun ! So when
you poked the hornets nest what did
you think was gonna happen ? [Duh.]

You open a thread as a troll and then,
hoisted by your own petard, you cry
foul and wanna take your ball and go
home. Ask yourself how did you wind
up on the ropes ? And is it "dejavu all
over again"
yet again ?

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thread as there have been no actual
ad hominem attacks despite cries to
the contrary. Presentation of harshly
inconvenient fact is not ad hominem
insult or attack.
It's a pattern, you will get used to it.
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Gotta know your plain old electric "Flashcubes"
from the later "MagicCubes". The former has 4
twin pairs of electric contacts. The latter has 4
mechanical spring triggers. It uses no electricity
and you can trip the triggers with a pen point or
any similar object if you wanna set off the flash
without a camera [warning: gets HOT in hand].

A MagicCube extender [anti-red-eye thing] is a
good way to fire off MagicCubes without risk of
blistering your fingers.

And that's a fact. You can look it up

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_(photography)
Mine are Flashcubes for my Kodak Instamatic.
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Mine are Flashcubes for my Kodak Instamatic.
Yes. Instamatic. Both type of cube were used
as tech advanced over time. Kodak added "X"
to their model names when switching up from
electric to "magic".

It's odd to think about something progressing
FROM electrical TO mechanical ... since that's
the reverse of the usual trajectory. Kinda like
the Second Coming of Vinyl.

Now, if anyone is awaiting the Second Coming
of Film, they'd better just chill out cuz we are
already waaaaay further retrograde than that.
The digital sensor is the Second Coming of the
Glass Plate
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It's a pattern, you will get used to it.
Actually I am quite used to the pattern even
as the names and details changed over time.

That is what I meant a coupla days ago when
I was saying how you don't need to know all
the gritty factual details to spot BS coming at
you cuz you recognize BS by its delivery. The
delivery can as easily be called the packaging
or the pattern.

Even when I first encountered just a few of
his posts [and that avatar] the vibe sucked.
And acoarst he won't be the last one.
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Back in the 60's when the first good reliable SLR's came out you could literally go to trash baskets and pull out range finder cameras aka mirrorless now. They were inferior to SLR then, they are inferior to DSLR now. Just shiny new toys for the uninformed. However, I do support their sales because without the dumb money paying the tab the camera companies won't be doing much in the research dept at the high end! SO ....encourage the purchase of mirrolress! Get the T-shirt!
Back in the mid-1960s was when I first got seriously interested in photography myself. if decent rangefinders had been that easy to get hold of back then, I would have gotten hold of one, or my father would have, in a trice. When going to thrift stores, I would look at their stock of used cameras. Never found anything like a rangefinder, or any other adjustable-lens 35 mm camera for that matter, without obvious defects. Instead, I received my first 35 mm camera for my birthday in 1964, a new Kodak Retinette 1A with Schneider 45 mm f/2.8 lens with zone focusing, and Prontor shutter with four speeds plus Bulb. My father set great store by the Argus C-3, but it wasn't until several years later that he found one. Meanwhile, I had subscribed to a 35 mm photo mag (Camera 35, if you must know) and occasionally picked up Popular Photography and Modern Photography. From them, I learned that rangefinders were still highly thought of back then and by no means had become next to worthless.
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While DSLR's have been the industry standard cameras used by most professional photographers for a while now but mirrrorless technology has not just caught up but overtaken them in regards to technological power.
The image quality is going to pretty much be the same regardless whether its DSLR or Mirrorless. The best of each can produce just as stunning photographs as the other.
Mirrorless cameras have quite a few things going for them. For starters if you're a videographer you'd be dumb to not go with a Sony A7s, Panasonic GH4 or the Sony a6300.
All of them shoot 4K, something no DSLR except for the very expensive Canon 1DC range can achieve.
Find out more about DSLRs vs Mirrorless here: DSLR v Mirrorless: The Debate of 2016
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Find out more about DSLRs vs Mirrorless here:

DSLR v Mirrorless: The Debate of 2016
While that link leads to some important solid basic
info, I fear it goes to waste in this thread. To jump
in to the craziness here you gotta know your schidt
at such a level that makes reading up on very basic
basics kinda like "See Spot run. Run, Spot, run".

But of all the treatises out there on basics, that one
is pretty well written and reasonably thorough while
still compact enuf that noobies will likely read it all
the way thru.

IOW it's an excellent link to an excellent noobie
resource and I really encourage posting it in other
places where the questions it addresses are being
asked at the basics level, in the "How do I ... " and
the "Help me Decide ... " threads. Noobies asking
those questions frequently ask poorly framed, and
even useless, questions cuz they need to read up
on stuff like that link to enable them to ask useful
questions. Camel doesn't seem too big on Stickies
but that link could easily become a Stickie.
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While that link leads to some important solid basic
info, I fear it goes to waste in this thread. To jump
in to the craziness here you gotta know your schidt
at such a level that makes reading up on very basic
basics kinda like "See Spot run. Run, Spot, run".

But of all the treatises out there on basics, that one
is pretty well written and reasonably thorough while
still compact enuf that noobies will likely read it all
the way thru.

IOW it's an excellent link to an excellent noobie
resource and I really encourage posting it in other
places where the questions it addresses are being
asked at the basics level, in the "How do I ... " and
the "Help me Decide ... " threads. Noobies asking
those questions frequently ask poorly framed, and
even useless, questions cuz they need to read up
on stuff like that link to enable them to ask useful
questions. Camel doesn't seem too big on Stickies
but that link could easily become a Stickie.
"Better" is subjective.
There are some great mirrorless cameras and some awful DSLRs.
Mirrorless Cameras are great because they are usually not as heavy, more compact and faster than DSLR's. DSLR's do have a benefit when it comes to lens selection but that about it in my opinion. The other aspect to it is the quietness of a mirror less device because I for one was not a fan of the constant twank of a DSLR for example.
This becomes very irritating when doing 'street' photography.
One great advantage for mirrorless is that the size of the body is really compact, like Sony A7 series. A7II with a 24-70 will be only around 990g. It's really light! Especially useful when I'diving, A7II with a waterproof case could be really light
Another point is that mirrorless have an EVF, what you see in the viewfinder is the same as what's on your image - just like a DSLR.
Some of mirrorless also have the better low light performance, A7s series for example, ISO can up to 102400!
At 4K it is really great, depending on whether you need it or not. Even the lowly A6300 has 4K!
I believe there's no such thing as the "best camera"
Is a DSLR better than X100s for street photography? I doubt it.
It all depends on what you need.
Most people can be much better served by mirrorless cameras.


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