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Old 02-20-2013   #1
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Is it just me or has the image quality degraded since the site was down the other day. I know the site has always compressed the image some which reduces quality, but it seems since the maintenance shut-down that the image quality has suffered more. I can view one of my images directly on my my pc and it's fine, upload it to my profile album and it gets way grainy, loses sharpness and gets funky artifacts. I THINK I'm also seeing it in images posted by others - seems they're more grainy than usual. Is it just me??


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Ed, the down time the other day was only because the Camel's IP addresses needed to be changed. My understanding is that was the only thing done. There were a number of users whose email notification stopped working and that is currently being traced. I personally have not noticed any changes to images posted as attachments in threads or externally linked to. However if you are using Firefox there was an upgrade this week to version 19 and that might have changed your view somewhat.
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Ah...I am using Firefox. That could very well be it! However, not all of the images I view here on PhotoCamel look grainy. I wonder if it has anything to do with me uploading images to my profile here versus linking to an outside host?
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Ed that is deff your problem mate plenty of others have had issues hosting from the camel gallery me included started to use PB issue solved.
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Ah...I am using Firefox. That could very well be it! However, not all of the images I view here on PhotoCamel look grainy. I wonder if it has anything to do with me uploading images to my profile here versus linking to an outside host?
I use Firefox too (which has just been updated to version 19). The images look just as they
did before the site update and the Firefox update. I have also checked on the Chrome
browser - they look the same there too!

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Thank you, Mark! I've been working on an online host the last couple days, I guess I should step it up and start linking. I had a suspicion that was part of the problem, so, thanks again for confirming it.

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I use Firefox too (which has just been updated to version 19). The images look just as they
did before the site update and the Firefox update. I have also checked on the Chrome
browser - they look the same there too!

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Thank you, Martin! I have a feeling Mark hit the problem on the head...it's because I'm not linking my images, rather I'm uploading here to the Camel. Things will soon change!

I appreciate your input and confirmation that it is not Firefox!

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I prefer to ATTACH images to messages so I don't need to maintain the images online forever or worry that moving something could screw up an online post.

The Camel limits JPG images to about 157k. I usually try to downsample the image myself to control the image quality. If I let the Camel do it, quality can get pretty poor. Some very detailed images just can be squeezed down to 150k without suffering, so those I will link.
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I prefer to ATTACH images to messages so I don't need to maintain the images online forever or worry that moving something could screw up an online post.

The Camel limits JPG images to about 157k. I usually try to downsample the image myself to control the image quality. If I let the Camel do it, quality can get pretty poor. Some very detailed images just can be squeezed down to 150k without suffering, so those I will link.
I see. So the images uploaded to here need to be 157k or less to avoid the sites compression. I feel certain this is why I have been experiencing degradation of image quality and also why I'm seeing it in SOME of others images. Cool. I will make changes. Thanks for your input!

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Ed, the actual size limit is 195KB for a .jpg file AND it must not exceed the dimensions of 1000 px max wide for landscaape mode or 1024 px tall for portrait mode. If you violate any of those 3 rules, your image will be resized and the way the Camel server does it is not pretty. Depending on your image content and sharpness, you can save the file on compression 8 or 9 and still fit it into the 195KB but very often you need to drop to 5,6,or 7 and then it may not be worth attaching.
If you use an external hosting site, you can size an image to 1000 x 667 and save on any quality level you want. Most of the time you can use 10 or 11 and keep your file size down to around 500-600KB and paste the direct link into the Insert Image button dialog window. In fact Camel will not modify the image at any size if it meets the dimension requirements. However if you link to a 1-2MB size file it will take a long time for the web page to come load and it can be brutal to people with mobile devices.
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