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Old 01-20-2013   #11
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Exciting riders for sure. However until the UCI and Nike confess their involvement in supporting drug use and corruption in Pro cycling and lay out a plan for recovery then there is no redemption for the sport.
Ok, I am respectful of your opinion but this is such a shame. I think many people who follow the sport will have a different opinion in the knowledge that the 2012 winner of the Tour de France was CLEAN. I certainly cannot connect that win to the Armstrong era. That would not be fair.
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Ok, I am respectful of your opinion but this is such a shame. I think many people who follow the sport will have a different opinion in the knowledge that the 2012 winner of the Tour de France was CLEAN. I certainly cannot connect that win to the Armstrong era. That would not be fair.

I am not saying that Wiggins is not clean. I think he is the real deal.

Hopefully over the next few months it will all come out and the house cleaning of the UCI can get started. As far as Nike goes I am not going to support an athlete wearing a swoosh at least until the allegations have been dealth with. Hopefully if Armstrong gets his deal and goes under oath to implicate those that are involved then we can clean house and put it behind us and move forward.
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I agree with you there Nolan
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I had never seen a major bicycle event until a couple of years ago when the Tour of California came through for the second time. First time start was in Nevada City, second was supposed to be in Tahoe area but got iced out...literally, so started again in NC but this time with one day notice.
Back to my point. I knew of a spot where I'd get a good angle of a downhill s-curve section and a short straight so I kitted up and went over there about 1.5 hours before they were supposed to reach that section.
Shortly after that the photog buses, police motorcycles, officials, everyone but the Shriners I believe started coming through. That lasted at least an hour then there was a break.
Suddenly, a couple of press motorcycles, police motorcycles, and a lead car came down the hill. Within 3 minutes the whole peloton was gone and replaced by an endless stream of team cars and vans and more police escorts. Officially, there were 144 riders entered and this area was mere minutes from the start of Stage 1. It's pretty easy to assume that there was still a full field when they got to me.
It took another 10 minutes or so to get across the road to where I'd parked. Then the road was re-opened and it looked like a normal Monday afternoon on a back road.
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I had never seen a major bicycle event until a couple of years ago when the Tour of California came through for the second time. First time start was in Nevada City, second was supposed to be in Tahoe area but got iced out...literally, so started again in NC but this time with one day notice.
Back to my point. I knew of a spot where I'd get a good angle of a downhill s-curve section and a short straight so I kitted up and went over there about 1.5 hours before they were supposed to reach that section.
Shortly after that the photog buses, police motorcycles, officials, everyone but the Shriners I believe started coming through. That lasted at least an hour then there was a break.
Suddenly, a couple of press motorcycles, police motorcycles, and a lead car came down the hill. Within 3 minutes the whole peloton was gone and replaced by an endless stream of team cars and vans and more police escorts. Officially, there were 144 riders entered and this area was mere minutes from the start of Stage 1. It's pretty easy to assume that there was still a full field when they got to me.
It took another 10 minutes or so to get across the road to where I'd parked. Then the road was re-opened and it looked like a normal Monday afternoon on a back road.
Fantastic.
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I had never seen a major bicycle event until a couple of years ago when the Tour of California came through for the second time. First time start was in Nevada City, second was supposed to be in Tahoe area but got iced out...literally, so started again in NC but this time with one day notice.
Back to my point. I knew of a spot where I'd get a good angle of a downhill s-curve section and a short straight so I kitted up and went over there about 1.5 hours before they were supposed to reach that section.
Shortly after that the photog buses, police motorcycles, officials, everyone but the Shriners I believe started coming through. That lasted at least an hour then there was a break.
Suddenly, a couple of press motorcycles, police motorcycles, and a lead car came down the hill. Within 3 minutes the whole peloton was gone and replaced by an endless stream of team cars and vans and more police escorts. Officially, there were 144 riders entered and this area was mere minutes from the start of Stage 1. It's pretty easy to assume that there was still a full field when they got to me.
It took another 10 minutes or so to get across the road to where I'd parked. Then the road was re-opened and it looked like a normal Monday afternoon on a back road.

I watched a criterium in the 80's in San Francisco. Greg Lemond and Bernard Hinault were in the race. They even had free hats for spectators and I was lucky to snag one. Still have the hat in my closet. It was called the Coors Classic back then. It was a stage race but that day was a criterium which is spectator friendly as they ride around a route and you get to see them go buy several times. Greg Lemond was the overall winner of the Classic and I do not even remember who won the criterium that day. A sprinter usually wins that type race. It was fun. I also watched the Amgen tour finish in Santa Cruz a couple years ago when Leipheimer won the overall race. The experience was similar to yours with motor cars, team cars and such for a long time and then the riders whisked past me. The finish line was so crowded you could not get in there to see anything. Overall not enough fun to go back the next year however which was last years race.

We have a Velodrome in San Jose and I have been out to watch that type racing a couple times. Pretty neat but the racers are just locals. It's an outdoor course and it's concrete. The spectators are mostly friends or family of the riders.
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I watched a criterium in the 80's in San Francisco. Greg Lemond and Bernard Hinault were in the race. They even had free hats for spectators and I was lucky to snag one. Still have the hat in my closet. It was called the Coors Classic back then. It was a stage race but that day was a criterium which is spectator friendly as they ride around a route and you get to see them go buy several times. Greg Lemond was the overall winner of the Classic and I do not even remember who won the criterium that day. A sprinter usually wins that type race. It was fun. I also watched the Amgen tour finish in Santa Cruz a couple years ago when Leipheimer won the overall race. The experience was similar to yours with motor cars, team cars and such for a long time and then the riders whisked past me. The finish line was so crowded you could not get in there to see anything. Overall not enough fun to go back the next year however which was last years race.

We have a Velodrome in San Jose and I have been out to watch that type racing a couple times. Pretty neat but the racers are just locals. It's an outdoor course and it's concrete. The spectators are mostly friends or family of the riders.
If you're interested in the criterium type racing, you may want to attend the Nevada City Classic (formerly the Tour of Nevada City). It's held each Fathers' Day weekend through the streets of NC, and there are many spots to get good sight lines for watching and photos. This year is the 53rd.
Plus, if it interests you the California Bluegrass Association has it's annual 4 day gathering at the fairgrounds in Grass Valley the same weekend.
What all this means is make your hotel reservation now. The bluegrass festival draws mainly campers but a good number of hotel renters as well, and the bike race draws large numbers of spectators, most of whom either day-trip up from the Bay or Sac Valley or stay in local hotels.
Really, you don't need an excuse to visit the area, but this is a pretty good one.
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Sounds interesting... Never seen one first hand but looking forward to the Tour coming to Yorkshire... That will be my chance fingers crossed


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