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Old 12-18-2006   #1
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I end up doing a lot of wide low-light hand held shots during the fall and winter months and my only option right now is my Sigma 18-50 2.8. It's been a good lens, but shooting at f/2.8 often isn't enough when I'm shooting handheld. I like the 16 - 18mm range for it's lack of blatantly obviousl wideness on a dslr.. and I'm certainly not interested in any fish-eye lenses. Sigma, Nikon, and Tamron apparently make decent 14mm 2.8 aspherical lenses, but I'm not sure I want to go that wide just to be able to shoot handheld a little more (being able to shoot at around 1/10th instead of 1/15th doesn't seem like much of a difference at this point, plus it's no good for stopping any sort of action).

So.. what options, if any, do I have? I'm planning on picking up a 10-20 or 12-24 type of lens sooner or later, but with none of those lenses having a maximum aperture wider than f/4, I'm not planning on using said lens for any low light hand held shots. My ideal lens would be an autofocus 16 or 18mm f/1.8 or f/2. Does such a lens exist somewhere, or is just going to remain a pipe dream of mine?

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Pipe dream. The closest you can get is the 24mm f/2.0 AIS or 28mm f/2.0 AIS, or in autofocus land, the discontinued and very expensive handmade 28mm f/1.4. There's also the Sigma 30mm f/1.4, but you wanted closer to 18mm...
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indeed.. I want wider than 20mm for sure. Sigma has their 20mm f/1.4, but after owning the Nikon 20mm 2.8 I'm quite sure it's not wide enough for what I like to shoot indoors.

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and this is the only reason I feel the need for a 'full frame' dslr
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i was gonna say the sigma 20 f1.8. i do not think anything is faster or wider.
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i do not think anything is faster or wider.
this is what I don't get. What's keeping companies from making a faster and wider lens? Do you think it's simply lack of demand, or complexity? .. too high a cost for the possible market?
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I think it's complexity of the optics with wide angle and trying to control distortion.

Even with primes you see how expensive the faster prime wide angle lenses are.

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Even with primes you see how expensive the faster prime wide angle lenses are.
yeah... but how come there aren't any primes faster than f/2.8 available wider 20mm?
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yeah... but how come there aren't any primes faster than f/2.8 available wider 20mm?
I would suspect that it's due to a lack of need in the marketplace.
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that's my guess as well.. or simply the fact that they don't think the need matches the price the market would pay

It just seems odd to me that there aren't any selection of fast wide lenses below 20mm or so... yet there are plenty above. I guess it makes sense... same reason there aren't 200mm f/1.8 lenses.. just wish there was such a thing
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It just seems odd to me that there aren't any selection of fast wide lenses below 20mm
Handholding something like 1/4 second in lowlight (f/2. versus 1/8 second (f/2.0) isn't going to show much of a difference for the average user. My bet is that in either situation one would already have looked for and found a support to aid in the handholding, in which either resulting image would be sharp. That, and a quality 16mm f/2.0 would probably be way more than most people would be willing to pay. You don't usually design and produce a lens to sell merely a dozen of them.

If you like 16-18mm on APS-C, then the 24mm f/2.0 and 28mm f/2.0 AIS lenses would be perfect for you on 24x36mm. I guess you just have to wait for the time being. =(

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same reason there aren't 200mm f/1.8 lenses.
There are.... Canon made one for the FD mount (right around the debut of EOS), and eventually ported it over to the EF mount as the EF 200mm f/1.8L USM. It was big, contained lead, focused slower than modern USM lenses, but otherwise a good lens. Production ceased a while back, and Canon no longer services them.

Nikon has the 200mm f/2.0G AF-S VR, which is a complete redo of the 200mm f/2.0 AIS. You're losing 1/3 stop compared to the Canon version, but this lens is better than the 200mm f/1.8 in every aspect.


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