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Old 12-08-2009   #11
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the 220 film contains more film and requires a back with less film tension than a 120 film so no it probably wont work too well.

On the RZ you need to switch the insets from a 120 to a 220 to get it to work, i would suspect that the film might be a bit too packed into a 120 roll and maybe get jammed?
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I think if i want to use 220 film then better i use 220 film back, i can get one, but the problem is people saying it is no longer available or no development or no use then i am worry it will be worthless, in fact all the idea for me to move or let's say to try film now after digital is not a good idea, but i am not in rush, i will see what will film do for me over digital rather than what many film shooters loving and talking about it.
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Old 12-08-2009   #13
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Yeah go with 120 instead. As you said it's easier to find and the only difference is that you get less exposures / roll (less film).

Remember one thing though with film vs. digital is that if you (like me) have a hybrid workflow, which means i shoot and develop on film but scan negatives and continue work in the computer, then your scanning equipment and technique becomes a vital part of the final product. a great negative can look like crap when scanned wrongly.

And be prepared to remove a lot of dust & specs manually in Photoshop (And no, the ICE/Automatic removals don't really work well)

What you will find however is a tonality and characteristics in your film that is just not the same when shooting digital. Dont get me wrong, i shoot digital for my bread & butter, but for my personal projects i definately prefere to shoot film.
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We will see, i am reading about film these days more than before, and looking for many gear for film like lenses, scanners, film,...etc.
I bought 2 120 film backs for my hassy and mamiya anyway, and many film rolls, just when i will be ready i will give it a try.
I know that developing the film alone can be damn a torture, but if i can develop it myself and get amazing results then i can be proud and then at least i can call myself a photographer, i feel myself a way far beyond many photographers if i didn't use film yet.
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Developing B&W is a breeze. Developing C-41/E-6 color is a damn bother =) I do my own B&W negs both 4x5 and 120 film and since i scan i dont even have a dark-room. i load the film in light-proof loading tents/sacks, and develop it in a jobo roller tank. Very simple to do and need very little space to do it.

And allthough you dont have to shoot & develop film to be a photographer, it does give you a perspective on taking images that in my opinion is quite rewarding. especially when shooting large format since if you are used to a faster paced shooting with digital cameras, all that grinds to a dead stop when shooting large format. there is nothing "fast" with those cameras

It is a learning curve but it is very rewarding in the end.
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Developing B&W is a breeze. Developing C-41/E-6 color is a damn bother =) I do my own B&W negs both 4x5 and 120 film and since i scan i dont even have a dark-room. i load the film in light-proof loading tents/sacks, and develop it in a jobo roller tank. Very simple to do and need very little space to do it.

And allthough you dont have to shoot & develop film to be a photographer, it does give you a perspective on taking images that in my opinion is quite rewarding. especially when shooting large format since if you are used to a faster paced shooting with digital cameras, all that grinds to a dead stop when shooting large format. there is nothing "fast" with those cameras

It is a learning curve but it is very rewarding in the end.
And too bad i don't have patience, and too bad in my country it will not help to use film slowly.

Still i feel it is not me who should use or try film, you people have many subjects and nice weather and labs and products that can help you to shoot film, but i was really looking for fun with film and worry at the end i find out that i wasted money and time to use film now where i live, moving to another place is not a choice at all either.
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yep Adorama is great for it
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Tareq; I suggest that you experiment with 120 film in 120 magazines until you find a need or desire to invest in a 220 film magazine.

220 roll film has a much longer paper leader than 120 and also has no paper backing except the leader. The counter in the magazine must account for this as well as the pressure plate and the take up spool pressure band. So, it is not advisable to use 220 film in a 120 magazine or vice versa.
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Tareq; I suggest that you experiment with 120 film in 120 magazines until you find a need or desire to invest in a 220 film magazine.

220 roll film has a much longer paper leader than 120 and also has no paper backing except the leader. The counter in the magazine must account for this as well as the pressure plate and the take up spool pressure band. So, it is not advisable to use 220 film in a 120 magazine or vice versa.
Hi Tixeon,

Thank you very much for your post.

In fact i am not planning at all to use 220 film on 120 film back or vice versa, i may look for a 220 film magazine if i really want to use 220 film, i have no experience in film at all so i don't want to do mistakes because of ignorance or misunderstanding of different films and/or magazines.
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Hi Tixeon,

Thank you very much for your post.

In fact i am not planning at all to use 220 film on 120 film back or vice versa, i may look for a 220 film magazine if i really want to use 220 film, i have no experience in film at all so i don't want to do mistakes because of ignorance or misunderstanding of different films and/or magazines.
Tareq;

That's a good idea.

I actually posted the above as a caution just in case anyone mistakenly tried to talk you or someone else into trying to use the 220 in a 120 mag.

I have shot thousands of rolls of both 120/220 film & it still amazes me how much misinformation is on the internet. As you indicated, it is wise to be cautious.

Good luck experimenting.


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