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Old 08-26-2011   #11
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You have options, I use everything from a 50mm RB lens to a 480mm ApoArtar, depending on what media I'm imaging on, at times it could be a roll film back, medium format digital back, a scanning back, 4x5, 8x10 or 16x20 film (in order of smallest to biggest) If you have enough coverage, that's all that matters.

While the angle of view may change, the DOF and perspective are still that of whatever focal length the lens is, irrespective of format. While I realize I have a few different digital options with the view camera, I have a hard time wrapping my head around wanting to mount a DSLR onto the back of one, it's just impractical as can be, at least to me.
It's great that you have so many options.

Practicality is a relative thing. I own a DSLR but won't in a million years be able to afford/justify a digital back or a first rate medium format negative scanner.

Which makes mounting my DSLR to a 4x5 the only practical way for me to have the movements of the view camera and (with the proper home made adapter) the ability to digitize photos taken with the RB soft focus lens.

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The RB 150SF has an image circle large enough to cover 4x5 with room to spare, the flange to focal length of ~78mm is ideal as every lens from the 50 to the 360 will focus at infinity with this measurement (hint, hint...).

I have some instructions on making a practical (usable to cock and fire, as well as mount) lensboard for the RB here should you need them: Rb lensboard info page
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The RB 150SF has an image circle large enough to cover 4x5 with room to spare, the flange to focal length of ~78mm is ideal as every lens from the 50 to the 360 will focus at infinity with this measurement (hint, hint...).

I have some instructions on making a practical (usable to cock and fire, as well as mount) lensboard for the RB here should you need them: Rb lensboard info page
MANY Thanks! This is exactly what I'm looking for, now I just have to patiently fish around in the "As Is" pond.
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Interesting how this thread morphed. I would not call mounting a digital camera on the back of a view camera hybrid digital. The OP, by me, was about digitally printed 4x5 film images.
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Tom, at least to me hybrid implies a combination of analog media and digital output. I'm not dogmatic, and any combination of LF, film and/or digital and digital output works for me.

Though from a purist standpoint, LF digital printed digitally is as hybrid (and equally anathemic) as the more "conventional" hybrid approach.
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Hybrid means the melding of different things be they plants or technologies. In this case we've seen a hard copy (film) digitally scanned and then processed as a digital file instead of maintaining it's phyicalness being processed to final form in a traditional wet darkroom.
We've also seen the melding of hardware using a traditional film camera modified so the resultant image is recorded as a digital file in a new technology digital body.

In my case I use both processing the wet film the scanning it into digital format and the hybrid camera hardware approach. In this case it was purely an exercise to see if an image could be recorded digitally with the flavor of the old non-uber lenses and bellows, which I might say I was so please that I do more of this than I thought I would. Saying that, this approach doesn't replace my wet work.
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Well, they make digital backs for large format cameras, but I do not consider that a hybrid process, just plain old digital.

However, I was not criticizing, as I said it was interesting to see what others are doing. This is the web, and any thread is likely to morph into almost anything (usually politics, religion, or porn). Besides, I only do hybrid because I do not have the money nor room for a 4x5 enlarger.
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I find getting a good scan to be prohibitively expensive. The large format backs or medium format backs are cumbersome and also crazy expensive. Now they are coming down. You can get into a system for only $10K. Then you can put that back on a large format camera with a simple adpater and now you have movements and larger format capture.

Most large format capture is still only medium format most of the time.
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That is an interesting outlook. I shoot 4x5, process the film, and make the scans myself. I do try not to take shots I do not particularly care about, so it is not outrageously expensive.

BTW, I shoot with flashbulbs too. Press cameras are just fun, fun, fun. Unfortunately, I need to get around to servicing the shutter as the synchronizer seems to be gummed up. $10K? I don't think I have $1K in my setup. I have a friend that just had a couple of hundred 4x5 trannies scanned on a drum scanner, I probably have not spent that much on photography in the past 20 years, well maybe about that much.
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Hey Tom,

I have a press camera too! I guess the question comes to quality of scans. I haven't had good results with @ home scans. This means I have to spend $25-$50 per scan at a lab. That it too much for me. Also the extra steps and time. When I speak of 4x5 it means a monorail camera with all the movements.

For that $10K you get a body and a back and a lens and you have instant capture. Then you can easily mount the back to a 4x5 to take advantage of movements. If you are only using a press camera, you are wasting time by mounting the back to that, rather than using the medium format. Well, maybe if you are using the front rise feature, but otherwise, it is just more convenient to use the medium format camera for capture.


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