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Old 10-05-2012   #21
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This is a link to B & H on the Siuri tripod
Sirui M-3204 4-Section Carbon Fiber Tripod BSRM3204 B&H Photo
Without the cross piace on the CB the tripod and gimble head weigh a little over 5 lbs of you have to hike very far.
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Old 10-05-2012   #22
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One other thing I learned about the Mongoose is that the lens probably will not be well balanced on it. With the CB or Wimberly, you can let go of the lens in any position and it will remain in balance. Not so with the Mongoose, it might balance in a level position, butwill be out of balance in any other.
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Are you sure? Artie Morris swears by the Mongoose and talks about proper adjustment for balance. I've never played with one, so have no personal experience.
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icassell: I am certain about my balance statement. If you will look at how the lens sets on the Mongoose, you will see that it would be high centered. That allows the lens to balance while level, but when tiped, the lens changes center and will tip up or down. The winberly design and others like it center the lens horizontally and vertically which allows the lens to remain in any position .is set.
I've no doubt the Mongoose is smooth and quick, but I don't want my lens to drop if I should leave it higher or lower than center on the Mongoose
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I am in the market for one of these and the info provided has been most useful and welcome.

Just one question - around these parts I am seeing lots of people using Sachtler fluid heads.

Fluid heads

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Fluid heads are designed to be used with large camcorders/video cameras, often used for cinema or broadcast video.

They can be used for still photography of birds and wildlife with long lenses, but that is not their intended purpose. I've found them somewhat cumbersome for shooting stills, especially when compared to a gimbal head, which is purpose-built for shooting still images with a long lens.
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If you want to use the CB like the orginal mongoose you can remove the cross arm and use it that way and it`s only 1pound 7 oz. I use it with the cross arm most of the time. I use a Siuri carbon fiber tripod M 3402 that works great and is much less expensive than the gitzo. The tripod is rated for 40 lbs and has a leg that can be used as a monopod, Siuri uses forged metal instead of cast so there is not need to buy reinforcing plates.
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Thanks for the info on the CB - yes I know you can use it like the original Mongoose, my only objection to this is that with the Mongoose, if you want the "low-rider" arm, it is additional $$$. I am not familiar with the Siuri tripods, but I will check them out.

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One other thing I learned about the Mongoose is that the lens probably will not be well balanced on it. With the CB or Wimberly, you can let go of the lens in any position and it will remain in balance. Not so with the Mongoose, it might balance in a level position, butwill be out of balance in any other.
This is an interesting "learning" - how did you learn this about the Mongoose?

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Fluid heads are designed to be used with large camcorders/video cameras, often used for cinema or broadcast video.

They can be used for still photography of birds and wildlife with long lenses, but that is not their intended purpose. I've found them somewhat cumbersome for shooting stills, especially when compared to a gimbal head, which is purpose-built for shooting still images with a long lens.
Thanks Michael.

Yes that is/was their intended purpose. But I have so far personally seen 5 guys using them. Speaking to them - they all used Wimberley's but have switched and said it gives them a better "feel". Also the "arm" means a simple up/down/sideways adjustment and the rig stays in that position.They were using 500-800s.

Went into a shop the other day and checked out their display model - it was very heavy. Also very expensive - ranging from 1200-1500usd.
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I had a fluid head a couple of years ago but it is not ideal for sports of bird photography, the fluid makes for a smooth slower motion the is great for video but not so good for air shows, wildlife and sports.
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