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Old 07-25-2008   #1
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I recieved a call today from the local University requesting a price quote to have me come in and shoot all the students on campus + faculty and staff... they gave a rough estimate of 3000 people. (can I breath yet?) My question is... GOOD LORD... what does one chargee for something like that?? Ok... at a minimum one is going to take 2 shots per person to attempt to avoid blinks... so even that is 6000 shots... of course that is assuming that everyone actually is photographed... but they are looking for a quote for that number.

When I have shot for them before I have charged an hourly amount... and I charge high for our area at $50.00 an hour. ( I know some of you are saying oh you are way low, while some of you are saying wow I wish I could charge that much... darn demographics!) But thinking that way... good grief that could be over whelming in itself! Well for example... 3000 people at say 10 minutes per person... signing them in placing them and snapping 2 shots... that is 500 hours! To take that a step further... that is 62 1/2 ~ 8 hour days! So at an hourly rate that would be $3125.00 but shooting constantly a person every 10 minutes for 62 1/2 days?

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So... please tell me that at this late hour and the thought of this has got my computations totally outta wack!
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checked your calculations: they are right .
Maybe another way of thinking would be: the job has to be done in a reasonable time, say 5 working days of 6 hours.
That means you need to process 3000/(5*6) = 100 students per hour.
Assuming 5 minutes per student working time you can process 60/5 =12 students.
to get the job done you need 100/12 = 9 assistants.
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I recieved a call today from the local University requesting a price quote to have me come in and shoot all the students on campus + faculty and staff... they gave a rough estimate of 3000 people. (can I breath yet?) My question is... GOOD LORD... what does one chargee for something like that?? Ok... at a minimum one is going to take 2 shots per person to attempt to avoid blinks... so even that is 6000 shots... of course that is assuming that everyone actually is photographed... but they are looking for a quote for that number.

When I have shot for them before I have charged an hourly amount... and I charge high for our area at $50.00 an hour. ( I know some of you are saying oh you are way low, while some of you are saying wow I wish I could charge that much... darn demographics!) But thinking that way... good grief that could be over whelming in itself! Well for example... 3000 people at say 10 minutes per person... signing them in placing them and snapping 2 shots... that is 500 hours! To take that a step further... that is 62 1/2 ~ 8 hour days! So at an hourly rate that would be $3125.00 but shooting constantly a person every 10 minutes for 62 1/2 days?
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checked your calculations: they are right .
Maybe another way of thinking would be: the job has to be done in a reasonable time, say 5 working days of 6 hours.
That means you need to process 3000/(5*6) = 100 students per hour.
Assuming 5 minutes per student working time you can process 60/5 =12 students.
to get the job done you need 100/12 = 9 assistants.
Am I missing something here

A quick mental calculation $50 x 500 hrs = $25,000.00
... and $400 (8hr/day) x 62.5 days = $25,000.00

Where did $3125.00 come from.
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you're right. Didn't check the paycheck only the amount of work.
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so where do you live? and could you foot the bill for me to come from australia and give you a hand?


i'd like to get in on that
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I'm not good at math, but I am good at how much time it takes to photograph a person. Five minutes is WAAAAAAAY too long unless you are going to offer each one a cuppa coffee. It shouldn't take any more than 30 to 45 seconds from the time they sit down, are posed and captured. You will need someone to man the camera only, another to assist in the posing, several to assist them in filling out the forms, another to ACCURATELY record the image number after the capture and several more to give the above a restroom break now and then.

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I'm not good at math, but I am good at how much time it takes to photograph a person. Five minutes is WAAAAAAAY too long unless you are going to offer each one a cuppa coffee. It shouldn't take any more than 30 to 45 seconds from the time they sit down, are posed and captured. You will need someone to man the camera only, another to assist in the posing, several to assist them in filling out the forms, another to ACCURATELY record the image number after the capture and several more to give the above a restroom break now and then.

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And you just knocked his earnings down from $25,000 t0 $1,875 for photographing 3000 people!

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I did 120 portraits in about 3 hours. You need at least two assistants, and you'll need to keep meticulous records. Preparation is key - I practiced the process with family members to find the gaps, so on game day everything went smoothly. I'll give you some hints: get a list of subjects, sort then alphabetically; print their names on 24up stickers, as each arrives, pull their sticker and place it on a new form where the image IDs are captured, both on the sticker and next to the sticker; shoot tethered to a laptop so you can verify the images; take small carb/water breaks frequently and load up on bananas the day before to prevent muscle cramps.
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I'm not good at math, but I am good at how much time it takes to photograph a person. Five minutes is WAAAAAAAY too long unless you are going to offer each one a cuppa coffee. It shouldn't take any more than 30 to 45 seconds from the time they sit down, are posed and captured. You will need someone to man the camera only, another to assist in the posing, several to assist them in filling out the forms, another to ACCURATELY record the image number after the capture and several more to give the above a restroom break now and then.

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I've done that for kids sports leagues where it was 10 minutes max per team for up to a 24 person team. It should be a lot easier with University students not to mention half of them may not even show up. The slowest part is the paper work and them asking questions about it so definitely have assistants to help with that.


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