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Old 06-15-2015   #1
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Right to the point, how did you get started making money?

Firstly, a critique of my photos would be much appreciated. I'm very interested to know if I am at a level to where I am able to start charging. At this point I still think I am not, both due to skill and not having my name out there. I'd be thankful for any tips here.
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Past that, how do I get started? I do believe that shooting for individuals will never get me in the black, I have to look to magazine features/racing team promos/track features, etc., basically taking gigs more fora client's business than for pleasure. I could contact some local tracks and see if they would me have some special access (Circuit of the Americas is pretty local), but that might be unlikely unless I specifically talk to one of the racing teams and get extremely lucky. Contacting some local car clubs to shoot the members vehicles for clubhouse photos or something like that might be viable as well.

Also, as far as releases go, do I need some sort of "model" release for automobiles? I would think not, but there's a reason I'm asking.

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Old 06-17-2015   #2
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I would think you'd need a property release if you wanted to publish photos of other people's property.
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Old 06-23-2015   #3
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There is no state or federal law that requires a release for publishing, selling or using commercially photos of someone's physical property. Of course that doesn't mean someone won't try and sue you if they incorrectly think such a law exists. Also most stock agencies require that you get such a release just to cover them even though there is no legal basis.
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There is no state or federal law that requires a release for publishing, selling or using commercially photos of someone's physical property. Of course that doesn't mean someone won't try and sue you if they incorrectly think such a law exists. Also most stock agencies require that you get such a release just to cover them even though there is no legal basis.
This is exactly what I seen everywhere. No law, but it's still a good idea to do it. I will.
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OK .. no law against you but yes a risk of annoying/expensive
legal bu11shidt. Commenting on this reality, you will find that
the closer your work is to journalism the less likely, very less
likely, you will be legally pursued. Peeps who don't know but
who never the less believe there's some law tend to believe
[good for us] that journalism is never a violation unless it's so
negative toward some individual as to constitute libel. That
makes it rather safe to shoot for magazines and acoarst you'll
tend to show the "properties" in a favorable way cuz these
magazines are for peeps who LIKE cars.

As t the other possible sales, you may have the legal right but
defending/enforcing it ... against parties with deeper pockets
than you ... hey, thaz america buddy, gotta do the dance, not
just in the car pix biz but almost any biz :-(

One thing in your favor is the nature of automobiles. If they're
registered street vehicles and not on the owner's property, say
at a show or rally or track, they're almost public property cuz
when registered they enter the public sphere, subject to the
whims and/or regulations/laws of civic authorities.

Peeps object to pix of their photogenic houses/estates cuz
"a man's home is his castle" etc etc ... IOW on a privacy basis
and I'll bet the property owner can often win such disputes.
But cars are not about privacy, and peeps are often proud of
them, so it's a calculated risk, and in my non-legal estimation,
the calculation is in our favor. Yes it only takes one a$$whole
with deep pockets to ruin your day, your year, or your life,
but again, that goes waaaaaay beyond the car pix biz.

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