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Old 06-17-2009   #11
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real nice .. but he must take his lenscape off and shoot you
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real nice .. but he must take his lenscape off and shoot you
I concur!! Great shots Alan!
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Today the Camel went to "The Chapel of the Holy Cross"


Here is a shot with "The Sisters" in the background.


We also met up with Michael (Verdesardog) and Amy. They took us to some Petroglyphs.


Thanks again Michael. We had a Great time!
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the pictures taken at eye level of the camel work best (the last of the first post, the one in front of the sisters).

I found out that an old telescopic antenna or pen and a little fishing line help a lot, because you can place the toy floating inside the picture at the correct place to give the illusion of proper perspective.

Also, with a point and shoot camera this kind of images is easier to do because of the bigger DoF and the hyperfocal distance starting sooner.

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Thanks for the tip. Even at F22 I was unable to get enough DOF.
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These are great Alan!!!! I like the camel! I always take a pic of my Xterra each place we go, but it is kinda big for some places... Great idea! I would have to use a wolf stuffed toy though. LOL

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Clever and well executed
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Thanks for the tip. Even at F22 I was unable to get enough DOF.
When I had to make some pictures of Teddy's Adventures for my daughter, these calculators here helped me a lot, specially the DOF calculator and the one for Dimensional Field of View.

Assuming the animal is 25 cm high and we'd like to have it take about 1/3 of the height of the picture, the whole picture should be no more than 75cm.
On a 1.6 crop camera at 20mm focal length this would mean the pet needs to be no more than 1m from the camera.

Checking with the DOF calculator, at 20mm and f/16 if you focus at 1.5m, the DOF should start around 70cm and go to infinity, so the whole thing would work.

With a 50mm on the same 1.6 crop camera, the toy needs to be closer than 2.5m, with f/16 focussing at 3.5m you'd have only a DOF from 2.4 to 6m, with the hyperfocal distance being over 8m. You would need f/32 (focussing at 4.5m) with that lens to get the right proportions. f/22 would give you only a DOF to 17m or so.

To sum all those number up: Wide angle lenses are good for these type of pictures, small sensors with big crop factors too.

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These are great Alan!!!! I like the camel! I always take a pic of my Xterra each place we go, but it is kinda big for some places... Great idea! I would have to use a wolf stuffed toy though. LOL

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When I had to make some pictures of Teddy's Adventures for my daughter, these calculators here helped me a lot, specially the DOF calculator and the one for Dimensional Field of View.

Assuming the animal is 25 cm high and we'd like to have it take about 1/3 of the height of the picture, the whole picture should be no more than 75cm.
On a 1.6 crop camera at 20mm focal length this would mean the pet needs to be no more than 1m from the camera.

Checking with the DOF calculator, at 20mm and f/16 if you focus at 1.5m, the DOF should start around 70cm and go to infinity, so the whole thing would work.

With a 50mm on the same 1.6 crop camera, the toy needs to be closer than 2.5m, with f/16 focussing at 3.5m you'd have only a DOF from 2.4 to 6m, with the hyperfocal distance being over 8m. You would need f/32 (focussing at 4.5m) with that lens to get the right proportions. f/22 would give you only a DOF to 17m or so.

To sum all those number up: Wide angle lenses are good for these type of pictures, small sensors with big crop factors too.

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I think I used my 10-22 for the shot with the Sisters in the background.
I have a couple of different DOF calculators in my iPod.
Thanks again for the info.


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