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Old 06-03-2007   #1 (permalink)
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I LOVE shots like this. This captures the true spirit of the day.

Selective blur, sepia tone, vignette.
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I LOVE shots like this. This captures the true spirit of the day.

Selective blur, sepia tone, vignette.
Excellent post processing! I love how you blurred the background a bit....
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Nice edit, Mark, but a totally different concept that Kev's. I prefer the original.

I'm a bit surprised that you modified Kev's picture without requesting permission. Or is that what his "ok lads do your worst" was all about? I hope so, because I've been on sites where any picture posted is considered to be fair game, and didn't find that practice endearing.
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Nice edit, Mark, but a totally different concept that Kev's. I prefer the original.

I'm a bit surprised that you modified Kev's picture without requesting permission. Or is that what his "ok lads do your worst" was all about? I hope so, because I've been on sites where any picture posted is considered to be fair game, and didn't find that practice endearing.
It's not like the picture was premamently "damaged" or anything....tempest in a tea pot?
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making a run for it
Not much of a run if you could freeze them at 1/125. More like "making a walk for it" .

You got excellent DOF at f/4, even for a 30mm setting! Was it the 17-55 or the 28-70 lens?
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i dont mind anyone altering my pics , i like to see what other photographers come up with .
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It's not like the picture was premamently "damaged" or anything....tempest in a tea pot?
A matter of regard for other people's intellectual property combined with netiquette, Pavel.
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thanks for your concern frank and for your comments
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A matter of regard for other people's intellectual property combined with netiquette, Pavel.
Frank, given the context of this forum, one should not feel "damged" or disrespected by his very small low resolution jpg being massaged. Nothing was stolen, nor damaged...you put it out there, expect that it may get changed. It's okay. Original file fine too. It seems you're just out trolling for a fight.
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Frank, given the context of this forum, one should not feel "damged" or disrespected by his very small low resolution jpg being massaged.
This is the Wedding forum, not the Retouching forum. It's inappropriate to exchange one's vision for that of the photographer without requesting permission. Just to make my position clear, I'll include my stance on that issue in my signature block.

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Not at all, Pavel. I'm just asking people to be courteous, and considerate of their threadmate's sensibilities.
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Not at all, Pavel. I'm just asking people to be courteous, and considerate of their threadmate's sensibilities.
I see on your signature line that you don't want your images retouched, and that's cool, and I wouldn't retouch one of yours for that reason. But if one does not post that then he should expect that his image gets tweeked.

You made a judgement call on what is appropriate. This issue is VERY subjective, and unless there are rules that say otherwise with a site, or with a poster (like you did in yoursig),one should not be offended if their jpg gets tweeked.

You think it is wrong. I don't. So who is right? This is very subjective, to be sure.

But don't worry, I won't retouch any of your posted images, as you have stated your desires, and I respect that. I've posted a few of mine a few times, and anyone is welcome to tweek them anytime, as I will never post an image on a public forum that I don't want reproduced, or tweeked by other people.
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I took Kev's comment as a invitation to edit.
Maybe I misunderstood.

Editing others pics happens here regularly, in many topic areas, even to my own images. Not sure why the fuss.

I regularly send my work to other photographers to get their spin on it.
It'll come back with a different border, color tone or some selective artwork applied. I don't feel the least bit threatened by someone tweaking one of my images. It helps me see what they see.
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I took Kev's comment as a invitation to edit.
Maybe I misunderstood.
Based on Kev's comment, you did not misunderstand.

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It'll come back with a different border, color tone or some selective artwork applied. I don't feel the least bit threatened by someone tweaking one of my images. It helps me see what they see.
Unless I've posted on a retouching forum and asked for advice, I'm sharing what I saw at the time of the shot, and not soliciting folks to interpret an event they didn't attend. But if you find that kind of response useful, enjoy.
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Mark posted a very nicely edited image. I would prefer something more in the vein of the original, perhaps just a bit sharper, but that's just my opinion. I really dig the color in the kev's picture. It's been my experience that good color tones make for great monochromatic and duotone conversions.

I am curious as to what method Mark used for the conversion to sepia. I prefer gradient maps and feel they offer much more control than the duotone dialog in Photoshop.

As far as editing others' images, though some don't mind, I am of the opinion that unless specifically asked to, editing and reposting is something better conducted through a PM. I personally hate it it when someone edits my images. I'd rather you tell me what the image needs, and allow me to work it out myself.

Anyway, that is one cool picture, kev. Nice job.
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