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Another tutorial from my website, which I thought may be of value here? it's a direct copy and paste.
![]() When shooting Monika at the weekend, I was very kindly assisted by Lola Gavin, a member of my camera club. Lola was also one of the participants at the most recent workshop I gave on flash photography. During the shoot I wanted to demonstrate the effect that shutter speed had on exposure when mixing flash with ambient light. I know I’ve covered this many times before in my various tutorials and workshops on flash (flash 101, mixing flash with ambient etc.), but with that said, now that I have some images to back up the theory I thought it was worth posting them here. First of all let me acknowledge that these aren’t the strongest images in themselves, but for demonstration purposes I think they serve the purpose very well. When dealing with a pure flash exposure, where there is no ambient light at all, we have various methods of controlling the exposure:
When we’re using ambient light, we have the traditional methods of exposing an image:
![]() Shutter speed is the most interesting factor because it is by controlling the shutter speed, that we can mix in more or indeed less ambient light into the shot. Changing any other variable will either effect both the flash exposure and the ambient or change the exposure for the subject. The three shots above were all taken such that the aperture, ISO, flash power and distance between the subject and model are all constant. For each shot I simply changed the shutter speed. Decreasing it, allowed more light into the shot, brightening the sky (ambient part of the exposure) as is shown on the left image, which is taken @ 1/60. Increasing the shutter speed, to 1/125 for the middle image, I decrease the amount of ambient in the shot, turning an other wise bright evening, that little bit darker. Finally increasing the shutter speed by another stop to 1/250 I can kill most of the ambient light in the shot. However in all 3 cases, the subject is exposed the same as it is the flash that is lighting the subject. Click here to see a larger resolution version of the image. This technique can be a very creative tool for the photographer. Indeed given a powerful enough shot you can make the brightest day look like night. A system which allows you avail of high speed sync is also advantageous, because it allows you increase your shutter speed to levels which cut out virtually all ambient light, but still allow you expose the subject with flash. __________________
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In the case of these shots, I was actually using 3 flashes (2xSB800 and 1xSB900) on a single tri-flash bracket, fired into an 86" umbrella. ![]() Distance wise, the light source was probably anything between 7 and 10 feet from the model. From recollection, for the 3 images above, it was closer to 10 feet. The flashes were each turned down to about 1/16 power. ![]() This is another shot from this setup. It was taken at just after 5pm in the evening and the flash was used in this case to overpower ambient, making it look darker than it really was. ![]() |
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Crazy question: Why three flash units? If they were shooting at 1/16th power each that's roughly half of any one flash unit's power. Did you fire three to completely fill in the umbrella?
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There are a few reasons for using 3 flashes.
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Ciaran
Thanks for the good examples. Very clear. ( Now, slightly off topic, with the triflash, isn't there anyway to use a single pocketwizard? Is there some sort of "splitter" out there?) |
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![]() For sure, if you're using three flashes on one bracket it is very extreme, not to mention very expensive to use 3 pocket wizards. The main reason for me doing so was because I had 3 of them with me. But I have looked into different options since. One option I have considered is breaking out a soldering iron and making my own 1xmini jack to 3xsync cable. Since then, someone pointed out to me that Belkin have what is called a Rock Star splitter which would do the same job (and saves you the hassle of having to make your own cable). Of course another option would be to use 1 pocket wizard and put the other flashes in slave mode, which again would work fine. |
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Thank you for answering my question. I would not have considered the fast recycle time, not that I do much rapid fire portrait work myself. Man, that's an expensive route to take. I know it all depeneds on what equipment you own. The top-end flash units and three pocket wizards plus the bracket to hold them would be prohibitively expensive for my situation. A portable power unit to fire the mono lights would be less espensive. It all comes down to what you have in the stable.
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Exactly. I have triggers and monolights, but not small power flashes. A vagabond portable power unit runs $250. If I were to throw a picture of that sort of set-up someone would say "that's an expensive set-up" Though It would only cost me $250 additional to make it happen. And I'm sure there are many more people who have multiple flash units than who have multiple studio units. Approach has more to do with what you have in your bag than it does how much you have in your wallet.
Oh, and I think the multiple flash firing into an umbrella is a nifty idea for all the reasons you listed: Less strain and drain on each unit, quick recycle and longer battery life. |
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Definitely thank you, ciaran. I'm reading with interest too.
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Thank you for the tutorial. I myself have struggled shooting outside with a flash, and now I know why. I keep it set to TTL and now see that I need to take that to manual too.
I am assuming that the best way to set this type of shot is to use a light meter, but right now I don't have one. I do have an outdoor shoot coming up and I have to figure out how I can use the equipment that I have. In some cases, I have taken my Photogenic light set outside and that has worked well. This time though I need to be a little more portable. The equipment that I will be using in addition to my D200 (and its flash) is a SB-900 and SB-800. So I figure (and based on what I learned here) that I will use the SBs under one 45" umbrella in commander mode, commanded from the camera flash. Without a light meter, do you have any suggestions? And, yes a light meter is on my wish list. Thanks, Briodan |
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I often shoot at between 1/10th and 1/30th second with off-camera softbox strobe outdoors (with tripod). I try to attain about 50-60% strobe-provided exposure. Fortunately my meter provides the percentages for me. |
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Some very interesting points and observations.
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I did not say that ambient does not have an effect on exposure. As you pointed out, of course it can. What I stated, and the purpose of the the thread was that shutter speed has no effect on the flash part of the exposure, so you can use shutter to balance/mix ambient. Quote:
The image below, shows all values/tones above 230 on the histogram. It shows an almost identical EV on all three images A lower threshold will obviously show differences as the amount of fill (mid-tones and shadows) varies. But the white points (exposure) are the same. ![]() Quote:
As for giving hard values. the idea of two stops is meaningless really. What's more important is ratio not absolute values. If flash is 10 stops brighter than ambient, then changing ambient by 2, 3 or even 4 stops will have little effect. If the original ratio is closer, then obviously a 2 stop change will have a greater effect. Quote:
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I use the Sekonic-758 (I presume thats the one you're talking about) and it is very useful for this kind of work, because it does provide percentages in terms of ambient to flash mix. So a lot of the guess work is taken out of the equation. But with that said, once you grasp the concept of ratios, this stuff becomes really straight forward. |
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Thank you for sharing this. I find your explanations here and the examples on your site are very helpful and easy to understand.
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