![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
|
|
|
|
#1 (permalink) |
|
Dromedary
|
One small thing to always remember and to get you thinking
![]() In my workshops I get alot of questions on rules and I find that most photographers try to life by those rules as if they were punisable by death. Let's say first that I think it's good to know the rules, but after that it's I think more so important that you learn how to break some rules. For example one one of the rules for portraits is that the eyes should be the focuspoint of attention and they should be on 2/3 rd of the picture (well this is taught by many), I find this often true, by cutting of for example some of the head (forhead) you take the viewers eyes to the eyes instead of into the whole picture. However it can also be amazingly effective to place the eyes somewhere else on the picture (experiment). One of the things I do always use as a rule however is to keep a flow in a picture, your eyes should not leave the picture but should stay into the image. The thing I would like to stress however is to train yourself to look and see the possibilities, sometimes you just can't follow all the rules and you have to be creative, when you know the rules, you can teach yourself to break them. Greetings, Frank __________________
__________________
Members don't see this ad. Register your free account today and become a member on PhotoCamel - Your Friendly Photo Community, gaining access to posting privileges, contests, free plug-ins and other downloads, unlimited online storage for your photographs, reviews, free marketplace listings, and much more. |
|
|
|
|
|
#2 (permalink) |
|
Camel Breath
|
Good advice, Frank.
I like having "rules" or "guidelines" or whatever you want to call them for two reasons. First, they generally work together with your ability to improve your photography. Secondly, I like to know that I'm breaking a rule when I do it. I love happy accidents, and a great many of my best photos have happy accidents. But, if there was more forethought, or intention behind what was a lucky break, then I can add some consistency to my pictures. I don't post too many pictures in the same boards as you, but I think you can find many examples of "rule breaking" in the pictures I take. Chopping heads, hiding eyes, lopping off limbs, etc. are all in my bag of tricks. I really like your comment about keeping a flow to the pictures. There are so many ways to do this, either with highlights, color, shadow areas, lines, etc. Movement and serenity are two things I look capture in a lot of my pictures. Great stuff to think about. |
|
__________________
¿ <°)))))>< |
|
|
|
|
|
|
#3 (permalink) |
|
Bactrian
|
i fully agree! I also often got remarks about the rule of the thirds. I think this rule is great and works most of the time but I also believe some of the best pics I have seen don't follow this rule.
|
|
__________________
Des photos de femmes pour les femmes. My website: www.lorekphoto.com My email: lorekphoto@hotmail.com Please visit my new site on www.lorekstudio.com I EOS 40D + 24-70mm 2.8 + 70-200mm 2.8 + 100 mm 2.8 macro + 15 mm 2.8 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
#4 (permalink) |
|
Camel Breath
|
Another good point. I have pictures that don't appear to follow the rule of 1/3's - mostly landscapes - but if you look closer, you can see where atypical features follow the rule. A horizon may be smack in the middle (apparently a no-no) but other elements fall cleanly within the rule. I think for a lot of pictures, the rule of thirds can really help someone new to photography quickly compose better pictures. Things seem to line up nicely when you apply the rule. But trying different, more creative things again may give more satisfaction.
|
|
__________________
¿ <°)))))>< |
|
|
|
|
|
|
#5 (permalink) |
|
Photocamel Master
|
|
|
__________________
Feel free to edit any of my photos<br />All comments welcome and appreciated<br />London England<br />Canon 1Ds2<br />I lost faith in religion as a child when I saw a lightning conductor being fitted to the local church. RSPB Member. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
#9 (permalink) |
|
Vicuna
|
I do believe in knowing the basics of lighting formula's for acheiving looks and posing...but often time's in catalog work or advertising work much is dependant upon the layout, and the resulting pix on the page more than what you'd like to do...perhaps this is/was an old school way of doing things...back then it was imperative to keep the contrast ratio's a bit lower in order to show more of the item's being advertised because of the printing process...everything improves technology wise but it is important to understand 'what' you are shooting for 'more' than relying on 'rules'...low grade paper will destroy your high grade contrasty shots, for example...so I guess I'm agreeing w/everyone else to a certain degree...
|
|
|
|
|
|
#10 (permalink) |
|
Dromedary
|
Rules are relative to a moment in time. As time moves on rules change. Therefore what is correct today may not be tommorrow, or, may not have been yesterday. Most people who make a difference learn the rules, understand them and then realise that they are just a platform from which to move forward and innovate. My pennyworth.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#13 (permalink) |
|
Vicuna
|
The thing about "rules" is that they can encourage a paint-by-numbers approach to art ... breaking them seems like an attractive way to break out of the mold. I agree with Buck, though ... they became "rules" because they're generally helpful. It pays to stop and think about the reasons why a different approach is (or isn't?) a good idea.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#14 (permalink) |
|
Alpaca
|
Some really fantastic quotes about rules and breaking them. How can I follow the rules or break them if I dont yet know all the rules... I found the 40 rules to portraiture and it keeps me awake at night thinking about the crap I have captured in the past. But it also makes me look forward to the next shoot.
__________________
__________________
Members don't see this ad. Register your free account today and become a member on PhotoCamel - Your Friendly Photo Community, gaining access to posting privileges, contests, free plug-ins and other downloads, unlimited online storage for your photographs, reviews, free marketplace listings, and much more. |
|
|
|
![]() |
| « » |
| Thread Tools | |
| Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads
|
||||
| Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
| Breaking Out | zankoubs | All Other Styles, Types | 2 | 11-09-2006 04:18 AM |
| breaking news from fuji, its a letdown | badpickev | Fuji Forum | 1 | 07-12-2006 11:28 PM |
| Yellowstone Lake - Sun Breaking Through | mikej | Landscape and Travel | 8 | 04-10-2006 10:48 AM |
| Wave Breaking.... | Michele | All Other Styles, Types | 18 | 03-24-2006 02:08 PM |
| Breaking in a camera | Alice Morrison | Photography Talk | 14 | 09-14-2005 07:34 AM |