PhotoCamel: Your friendly photo community, with free discussion forums, digital photography reviews, photo sharing, galleries, downloads, blogs, photography contests, and prizes.
Photography Contest Photo of the Week Photo of the Week

Go Back   PhotoCamel - Your Friendly Photography Forum > The Photographer > Tutorials

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-29-2010   #11
Guanaco
 
Lightdances's Avatar
 
Location: Boise ID.
Posts: 295
Lightdances is a glorious beacon of lightLightdances is a glorious beacon of lightLightdances is a glorious beacon of lightLightdances is a glorious beacon of lightLightdances is a glorious beacon of lightLightdances is a glorious beacon of lightLightdances is a glorious beacon of lightLightdances is a glorious beacon of light
CamelKarma: 1016
Editing OK?: No
Default Re: Soft Focus Photography

Thank you to all who have posted on this topic, great info Ed! regards DD


__________________
Members don't see ads in threads. Register your free account today and become a member of PhotoCamel to open up the site's many benefits and features.
__________________
Lightdances Photography
www.Lightdances.com
LightdancesPhotography.blogspot.com
Boise ID. USA
Lightdances is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2010   #12
Alpaca
 
Location: Capelle aan den IJssel
Posts: 34
Marc-NL is on a distinguished road
CamelKarma: 10
Editing OK?: Ask first
Default Re: Soft Focus Photography

Hello Ed,

I like your article a lot.
And it's very good to see these 1980 images.
Bring back memories of me as a young photographer
Great Article!
Marc-NL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2010   #13
A professional viewpoint.
 
Ed Shapiro's Avatar
 
Location: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
Posts: 5,224
Ed Shapiro strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorEd Shapiro strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorEd Shapiro strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorEd Shapiro strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorEd Shapiro strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorEd Shapiro strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorEd Shapiro strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorEd Shapiro strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorEd Shapiro strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorEd Shapiro strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorEd Shapiro strides over the forum like a knight in shining armor
CamelKarma: 133273
Editing OK?: Ask first
Default Re: Soft Focus Photography

Hey Mark- Thanks for your comments. Those images were nor made in the 1980- Some of the are only 5 months old. This is a retro-look this is reminiscent of the 1930 and 40s when soft focus images were made may most portrait photographers. Using theses lenses nowadays give me another style to offer my clients especially those who want to be glamorized a bit.

Ed
__________________
Ed Shapiro - Master Photographer
Ottawa, Canada
edshapiro@sympatico.ca
Ed Shapiro is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2010   #14
Alpaca
 
Posts: 6
ccharrison is a jewel in the roughccharrison is a jewel in the roughccharrison is a jewel in the rough
CamelKarma: 259
Default Re: Soft Focus Photography

You may want to read my articles on classic Soft Focus lenses. I have written 2 so far, part 3 will be out in the next few weeks.

Antique and Classic Soft Focus Lenses


Thanks
Dan
ccharrison is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2010   #15
Dromedary
 
tekdiver500ft's Avatar
 
Location: St. Johns, Michigan
Posts: 1,462
tekdiver500ft has much to be proud oftekdiver500ft has much to be proud oftekdiver500ft has much to be proud oftekdiver500ft has much to be proud oftekdiver500ft has much to be proud oftekdiver500ft has much to be proud oftekdiver500ft has much to be proud oftekdiver500ft has much to be proud oftekdiver500ft has much to be proud oftekdiver500ft has much to be proud oftekdiver500ft has much to be proud of
CamelKarma: 12142
Editing OK?: Ask first
Default Re: Soft Focus Photography

You can get a very nice soft focus look in PhotoShop without the added expense of other plugins, too. You just have to know what it is supposed to look like. In this one, I was mimicking a classic film look with a soft focus grid, hence the faded color and prominent grain.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg _MG_7350-Edit-4.jpg (81.4 KB, 922 views)
__________________


Fritz

I intend to live forever. So far, so good.

Wedding and Portrait Photography
tekdiver500ft is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2010   #16
A professional viewpoint.
 
Ed Shapiro's Avatar
 
Location: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
Posts: 5,224
Ed Shapiro strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorEd Shapiro strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorEd Shapiro strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorEd Shapiro strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorEd Shapiro strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorEd Shapiro strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorEd Shapiro strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorEd Shapiro strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorEd Shapiro strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorEd Shapiro strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorEd Shapiro strides over the forum like a knight in shining armor
CamelKarma: 133273
Editing OK?: Ask first
Default Re: Soft Focus Photography

DAN! THANK YOU! Soem of my favorites are in your list- I have used a few in the past and have some of them in my present inventory and use them often. Great going- you should post more.

Ed
__________________
Ed Shapiro - Master Photographer
Ottawa, Canada
edshapiro@sympatico.ca
Ed Shapiro is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2010   #17
F1 Camel
 
Location: Jax FL
Posts: 4,174
badpickev is a name known to allbadpickev is a name known to allbadpickev is a name known to allbadpickev is a name known to allbadpickev is a name known to allbadpickev is a name known to allbadpickev is a name known to allbadpickev is a name known to allbadpickev is a name known to allbadpickev is a name known to allbadpickev is a name known to all
CamelKarma: 1676
Editing OK?: Yes
Default Re: Soft Focus Photography

in the 35mm world nikon and canon both make defocus control lenses. sima made a 100mm f2 sf lens, it is cheaply made and came with 3 f stop discs. these pop up from time to time. there was a company called dreamagon, that made a m42 sf 90mm f4 lens,
__________________
Fuji S2/S3/S5 Pro
Kenko MC7 2X, Pro 300
Nkkor 50 1.8 70-300VR
Phoenix 100, 650-1300& Sima 100mm F2 SF
Sigma 12-24, 18-50 HSM, 18-125, 50-500, 70-300, 120-300, 1.4X 2x
Tamron 28-75
badpickev is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2010   #18
Guanaco
 
C Webb's Avatar
 
Location: Canon City, Colorado
Posts: 436
C Webb is a glorious beacon of lightC Webb is a glorious beacon of lightC Webb is a glorious beacon of lightC Webb is a glorious beacon of lightC Webb is a glorious beacon of lightC Webb is a glorious beacon of lightC Webb is a glorious beacon of lightC Webb is a glorious beacon of lightC Webb is a glorious beacon of lightC Webb is a glorious beacon of light
CamelKarma: 1385
Editing OK?: Ask first
Default Re: Soft Focus Photography

tekdiver500,
You have made a valient effort to achieve a "SF" image, however it truly in my opinion does not quite make it. While soft it is, it looks nothing like an image made with a true soft focus lens. Your image is exactly what folks that don't know what a soft focus photograph looks like, so the assume soft focus means slightly out of focus and fuzzy. Your image as nice as it is simply looks O F and Fuzzy. My point simply is do more research study real soft focus
images, then show us what you have learned.

C Webb
C Webb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2010   #19
A professional viewpoint.
 
Ed Shapiro's Avatar
 
Location: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
Posts: 5,224
Ed Shapiro strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorEd Shapiro strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorEd Shapiro strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorEd Shapiro strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorEd Shapiro strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorEd Shapiro strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorEd Shapiro strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorEd Shapiro strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorEd Shapiro strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorEd Shapiro strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorEd Shapiro strides over the forum like a knight in shining armor
CamelKarma: 133273
Editing OK?: Ask first
Default Re: Soft Focus Photography

We can talk about how soft focuses work or don't really work based on optical science. We can discuss areas such as zonal aberrations, floating elements, diffusion filters and go on forever. It sometimes seems that there are as many optical theories and formulas as there are soft focus lenses and accessories. I have owned and used many of them, for me, however, the proof of the pudding is in the tasting. The end result is what determines the usefulness or simply the "look" that each lens has to offer.

To me, the king of all MODERN soft focus lenses is the Rodenstock Imagon. The old instruction sheets were kinda funny because they stated that there are many ways of using this lens and pretty much left the photographers to their own devices in figuring out the multitude of effects that could be derived from that particular lens. It can be used with the disks or without them or with the diaphragm built into the shutter or with no aperture control at all.

My other favorite is difficult to use nowadays what with the difficulty in finding steady supplies of large format film in the 8x10 and 5x7 sizes. That lens is the Taylor Hobson and Cooke- the one where the sharpness/softness control looks like a pair of brass knuckles. This lens has floating elements and can be tack sharp or romantically soft.

My most practical lens is the 150mm SF Sekor for my Mamiya 6x7 camera. This lens works similarly to the Imagon with the perforated disks and is very fast working. I can shoot portraits as fast as I need to capture expressions and poses and still achieve soft results- no muss- no fuss and film holders to change or the slowness of view camera operation to put up with.

I understand that Canon has a current 135 mm soft focus lens, I have never used used but I saw the results- they are impressive.

There is a little known Minolta SF lens that was made for the Minolta X500 and X700 series- modest but very nice little cameras. I used that lens and achieved great results on 35mm film.

The lenses that give me the "look" I like do not "de-focus" or degrade the image in any way. There seems to be a primary sharp image over which a soft secondary image appears. When the highlight bleed into the shadows the is a kind of optical retouching that takes place and no significant post production retouching becomes necessary where a glamorization effect is desired. To a certain degree, Zeiss Softar filters achieve this effect but my favorites are real soft focus lenses nonetheless.

There were also many other designs; Schneider produced a number of "convertible lenses" where by removing the front element component, the remaining element would mimic the single element (really 2 elements cemented together) of the Imagon. When that was done, the focal length became too long and slow for practical usage. I had a few of theses for my view camera but prefered to keep the lenses intact for conventional commercial usage. The Kodak Portrait Lens was another old favorate.

Ed
__________________
Ed Shapiro - Master Photographer
Ottawa, Canada
edshapiro@sympatico.ca
Ed Shapiro is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2010   #20
Vicuna
 
RACAIN's Avatar
 
Location: Land O Lakes, Fl
Posts: 61
RACAIN has a spectacular aura aboutRACAIN has a spectacular aura about
CamelKarma: 192
Editing OK?: No
Default Re: Soft Focus Photography

A lot of great information..thanks everyone..


__________________
Members don't see ads in threads. Register your free account today and become a member of PhotoCamel to open up the site's many benefits and features.
RACAIN is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

« PhotoCamel - Your Friendly Photography Forum > The Photographer > Tutorials »


Share this topic:

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Soft Focus, how to do it KEVINS Photography Talk 10 03-15-2010 12:51 AM
Soft focus on a Clematis D.Rodgers Macro and Close-up Photography 9 12-15-2009 01:51 PM
Can anyone tell me about this lens? Canon 135mm f2.8 Lens Soft Focus auto focus f/2. PhotoMom Canon Forum 18 02-18-2009 07:02 PM
Soft focus around the house walter23 Abstract and Artistic Expression 4 12-24-2008 10:36 AM
Soft focus, soft colors dave502 Portraits / People 7 02-29-2008 04:59 PM