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Gna · 10-26-2009

Except for no. 3 – as was already mentioned – and the wonky WB in the first 3 (I agree with sonshine there), your light set ups look exemplary and you seem to have to good working m.o. for your PP. Your model is plain gorgeous. Fine bone structure, and she seems born to be in front of a camera. Very photogenic indeed. The 9th post revealed where she got it.

Looking forward to your postings from this oddyssee (BTW: did I miss poses 5 through 14?).

Mikkic · 10-26-2009

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Originally Posted by Gna

Except for no. 3 – as was already mentioned – and the wonky WB in the first 3 (I agree with sonshine there), your light set ups look exemplary and you seem to have to good working m.o. for your PP. Your model is plain gorgeous. Fine bone structure, and she seems born to be in front of a camera. Very photogenic indeed. The 9th post revealed where she got it.

Very kind words...gotta be careful about letting her reaad these comments, or I won't be able to fit her big head in the viewfinder!

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Originally Posted by Gna

Looking forward to your postings from this oddyssee (BTW: did I miss poses 5 through 14?).

We don't like all the poses, I'm just kind of picking and choosing which ones are doable with the resources at hand and which ones she thinks she can try...I mean, really '500' !?

...it's a rather daunting challenge, even if I can skip some, I may go back and pick up a few more as we go through the book if we aren't sick to death of the process.

EOS_JD · 10-26-2009

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Originally Posted by Mikkic

Poses 4 and 15...

got to say No 4 is a FANTASTIC image!!! What was your lighting setup? Beautiful shot and PP is perfect.

Mikkic · 10-26-2009

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Originally Posted by EOS_JD

got to say No 4 is a FANTASTIC image!!! What was your lighting setup? Beautiful shot and PP is perfect.

Wow! Thanks so much for the kind words! That's so encouraging...

As I said in one of my earlier posts, this book is not only a posing book, but also a lighting book! #4 took me many tries to get the lighting in the ball park...

For the BG, I am using a white roller shade I picked up at Wally's, and I made a kaliedascope (sp?) with black paper by cutting holes in it and taping over the holes the corners I robbed off of each color of my gels (Making sure I left enough to still use them whole) Then I had a hair light in a long grid from behind, and a softbox camera right with a large reflector camera left...

LadyShutterbug · 10-26-2009

What a fun book! I'm going to have to look for that! Nice images. They are all beautiful.

JAC2786 · 10-27-2009

The b&w version of your daughter is great

You've done a nice job. I'll have to check out that book!

Jackie

camrajoky · 10-27-2009

AS you said this is a learning process for you. Since you are shooting in Jpeg....are you working with the White Balance on auto or manual? I too have the E-3 and have found that when working with studio lighting, you need to switch the W/B to manual and set it to daylight (5400 K) so that the gels and flash will stay stabilised.The angles of the other images are more interesting.
To work square to the lens adds width and not to mention take away from the subject. The 4th is getting there, just need to tweek your lighting better. Look at the catch lights in the eyes....or the lack of them in some.

Mikkic · 10-27-2009

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Originally Posted by LadyShutterbug

What a fun book! I'm going to have to look for that! Nice images. They are all beautiful.

Thanks so much!

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Originally Posted by JAC2786

The b&w version of your daughter is great

You've done a nice job. I'll have to check out that book!

Jackie

Thank you, Jackie!

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Originally Posted by camrajoky

AS you said this is a learning process for you. Since you are shooting in Jpeg....are you working with the White Balance on auto or manual? I too have the E-3 and have found that when working with studio lighting, you need to switch the W/B to manual and set it to daylight (5400 K) so that the gels and flash will stay stabilised.The angles of the other images are more interesting.
To work square to the lens adds width and not to mention take away from the subject. The 4th is getting there, just need to tweek your lighting better. Look at the catch lights in the eyes....or the lack of them in some.

Thank you for taking the time to comment...Actually, I do use manual WB, the shots were all over the map when I didn't, although I recently set mine to 5800 K, because I like a little bit more warmth in my images...

lputman · 10-27-2009

They are great...I'll have to check out that book too! For you original #3, I like your first B&W conversion best.

Jason Hermann · 10-27-2009

Really nice job on these! The poses look great and the lighting is looking really good as well

Best,
Jay

Mikkic · 10-27-2009

Okay, now somebody out there will see this and know exactly what I am going for...but it is not quite there...her skin should be a white value of about 250....I just can't seem to get it there without mottling and messing up the shadows, which I would like to be a value of around 15...

If anyone has the book I am working from, the effect is on plates 18 and 19....

EOS_JD · 10-27-2009

Do you use a meter?

Mikkic · 10-27-2009

A meter? Did you say a meter? Like.....a meter?

I got two good eyes........

And I WILL learn how to do this in photoshop....

EOS_JD · 10-27-2009

Using a meter will allow you to measure the light in the highlight AND shadow areas. Using Ps is not where you want to be editing the images. Get it closer in camera.

Mikkic · 10-27-2009

*Sigh* Okay, so, IF I were to use a meter, what exposure should I looking at in the highlights and in the shadow?

EOS_JD · 10-27-2009

That depends on the ratio you are looking for.

Also remember that getting your light closer to the subject will mean more light fall off so more contrast (darker shadow).

I'm no expert though - experiment with your eyes but a meter will help get the right exposure every time.

Edit
If you respond it may take me a few days tpo get back

Off on a wee trip to London so need to get some sleep!! Up early (it's 1am here)!

Keep up the great work.
Jim

Mikkic · 10-27-2009

Hmmmm..... Okay, I fine tuned my eyes....LOL I think I like this one better--thanks for the push, Jim!

Mikkic · 10-28-2009

Spark of creativity #2 and #3...When trying a pose that is not working out for whatever reason, I hate to waste the wardrobe and lighting time, so I see what I can come up with on my own...

The third one is a rework of pose #15--Sarah likes this one, and the newest High key...

patterfr · 10-28-2009

Doing great.
Watch the nose shadow blocking light to the other eye like in the first one right above here.
But you 're doing great!!

Gna · 10-28-2009

The image in your post #31 is fabulous as far as the angle, her expression, and her pose go. Confirms everything I said earlier.
Of course the burnt out parts are unfortunate. That is much better in the image in your post #37!

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Originally Posted by Mikkic

A meter? Did you say a meter? Like.....a meter?

I got two good eyes........

And I WILL learn how to do this in photoshop....

Well, eos said it, and he/she is right! Use a meter and get it right in-camera if you can, in PP only if you must.

And you don't need a separate (expensive) handheld light meter! You have a spot meter in your cam! Bought and paid for. So use it!

10-26-2009	#21
Gna Former Camel Posts: 374 CamelKarma: 352 Gallery \| Blog	Re: 500 poses for Women Except for no. 3 – as was already mentioned – and the wonky WB in the first 3 (I agree with sonshine there), your light set ups look exemplary and you seem to have to good working m.o. for your PP. Your model is plain gorgeous. Fine bone structure, and she seems born to be in front of a camera. Very photogenic indeed. The 9th post revealed where she got it. Looking forward to your postings from this oddyssee (BTW: did I miss poses 5 through 14?). __________________ Members don't see ads in threads. Register your free account today and become a member on PhotoCamel - Your Friendly Photo Forum, gaining access to posting privileges, contests, free plug-ins and other downloads, unlimited online storage for your photographs, reviews, free marketplace listings, and much more.

10-26-2009	#25
LadyShutterbug Llama Location: Kansas Posts: 837 CamelKarma: 5560 Editing OK?: Ask first Gallery \| Blog	Re: 500 poses for Women What a fun book! I'm going to have to look for that! Nice images. They are all beautiful.

10-27-2009	#26
JAC2786 Llama Posts: 554 CamelKarma: 2819 Editing OK?: No Gallery \| Blog	Re: 500 poses for Women The b&w version of your daughter is great You've done a nice job. I'll have to check out that book! Jackie
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10-27-2009	#27
camrajoky Dromedary Location: Everett, WA Posts: 1,014 CamelKarma: 2110 Editing OK?: Ask first Gallery \| Blog	Re: 500 poses for Women AS you said this is a learning process for you. Since you are shooting in Jpeg....are you working with the White Balance on auto or manual? I too have the E-3 and have found that when working with studio lighting, you need to switch the W/B to manual and set it to daylight (5400 K) so that the gels and flash will stay stabilised.The angles of the other images are more interesting. To work square to the lens adds width and not to mention take away from the subject. The 4th is getting there, just need to tweek your lighting better. Look at the catch lights in the eyes....or the lack of them in some.
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10-27-2009	#29
lputman PhotoCamel Supporter Bactrian Location: Olive Branch, MS Posts: 2,211 CamelKarma: 14527 Editing OK?: Yes Gallery \| Blog	Re: 500 poses for Women They are great...I'll have to check out that book too! For you original #3, I like your first B&W conversion best.
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10-27-2009	#30
Jason Hermann PhotoCamel Supporter Photocamel Master Location: NY, USA Posts: 9,783 CamelKarma: 22917 Editing OK?: Yes Gallery \| Blog	Re: 500 poses for Women Really nice job on these! The poses look great and the lighting is looking really good as well Best, Jay
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10-27-2009	#32
EOS_JD Llama Posts: 625 CamelKarma: 887 Gallery \| Blog	Re: 500 poses for Women Do you use a meter?
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10-27-2009	#33
Mikkic Guanaco Location: The Evergreen State Posts: 264 CamelKarma: 5087 Editing OK?: Yes Gallery \| Blog	Re: 500 poses for Women A meter? Did you say a meter? Like.....a meter? I got two good eyes........ And I WILL learn how to do this in photoshop....
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10-27-2009	#34
EOS_JD Llama Posts: 625 CamelKarma: 887 Gallery \| Blog	Re: 500 poses for Women Using a meter will allow you to measure the light in the highlight AND shadow areas. Using Ps is not where you want to be editing the images. Get it closer in camera.
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10-27-2009	#35
Mikkic Guanaco Location: The Evergreen State Posts: 264 CamelKarma: 5087 Editing OK?: Yes Gallery \| Blog	Re: 500 poses for Women Sigh Okay, so, IF I were to use a meter, what exposure should I looking at in the highlights and in the shadow?
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10-27-2009	#36
EOS_JD Llama Posts: 625 CamelKarma: 887 Gallery \| Blog	Re: 500 poses for Women That depends on the ratio you are looking for. Also remember that getting your light closer to the subject will mean more light fall off so more contrast (darker shadow). I'm no expert though - experiment with your eyes but a meter will help get the right exposure every time. Edit If you respond it may take me a few days tpo get back Off on a wee trip to London so need to get some sleep!! Up early (it's 1am here)! Keep up the great work. Jim
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10-28-2009	#39
patterfr Photocamel Master Location: New Jersey Posts: 7,572 CamelKarma: 50592 Editing OK?: Yes Gallery \| Blog	Re: 500 poses for Women Doing great. Watch the nose shadow blocking light to the other eye like in the first one right above here. But you 're doing great!!
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