Who likes Ron Paul here?

[dthem]

Don't kid yourself.

Originally Posted by gryphonslair99

I know, but some people previously didn't.

[dthem]

OK then, looks like we are in agreement.

Originally Posted by dmthompson

if you have selfish ignorant citizens you bound to have selfish ignorant politicians. If you really believe this then we are in agreement.

Dwight

[dthem]

It doesn't matter how you vote. Important thing is vote for your heart. Never vote for the lesser of the two evils.

As I can see, more and more voters are seeing that Paul is the real deal to vote for in order to fix the problem facing the country.

Originally Posted by Reeflections

I don't think anyone would doubt Paul's consistency or that he is a man of principle. But it's all moot because he will never get past the primary. Which is a good thing IMHO.

If he did become the nominee (3rd party), he might give Obama the toughest go of it tho. The far left might hold their nose on his economic policies and vote for him for his foreign policy - while the far right would hold their noses on his foreign policy and vote for him for his economic policies. Of course they may do the opposite and he would lose big time.

[dthem]

Sure. I wish you would post more of these opposite views.

I will check them out to see how smart or intelligent these authors are.

Originally Posted by gryphonslair99

DEAR RON PAUL FANS: Yes, Your Candidate's Plan Will Destroy The Economy

Here's Ron Paul's Crazy Plan To Destroy The Economy

Blodget: Ron Paul’s Plan Will “Destroy the Economy” | Tom Woods

Don't ya just love playing the post a link game.

[dthem]

Check out this comment in your following posted link: (love it)

dollarmayhem (URL) on Oct 18, 11:06 AM said: @Kook:

You and Henry fail basic economics.

"The economy will shrink by 7%, to $13 trillion."

No, it won't. Government spending is not the economy.

If government spending helped the economy, the Soviet Union would not have collapsed. Cuba and North Korea would be successful states.

The government produces no profit. Governement spending comes from your pocket, and puts your grandkids in debt slavery.

If the government cuts taxes by $13 trillion, Americans will have $13 trillion more in their pockets. This is money Americans will spend in the real private sector economy.

Originally Posted by gryphonslair99

DEAR RON PAUL FANS: Yes, Your Candidate's Plan Will Destroy The Economy

[gryphonslair99]

Originally Posted by dthem

Don't kid yourself.

Well if that's the case then you might want to check out this link:

Verb Tenses

[gryphonslair99]

Originally Posted by dthem

Check out this comment in your following posted link: (love it)

dollarmayhem (URL) on Oct 18, 11:06 AM said: @Kook:

You and Henry fail basic economics.

"The economy will shrink by 7%, to $13 trillion."

No, it won't. Government spending is not the economy.

If government spending helped the economy, the Soviet Union would not have collapsed. Cuba and North Korea would be successful states.

The government produces no profit. Governement spending comes from your pocket, and puts your grandkids in debt slavery.

If the government cuts taxes by $13 trillion, Americans will have $13 trillion more in their pockets. This is money Americans will spend in the real private sector economy.

The Economy for Dummies: What does it all really mean? | Babeled

Pay close attention to Paragraph 2 on.

[Douglas]

Like the Vampire he is, RP has dthem hypnotized like a spider does a fly. I loved how he said he was going to check out the links to see how intelligent the authors are. If that doesnt tell you how he not only drank the kool aid, he drank half the jug, I dont know what will.

[Kerbouchard]

Originally Posted by Reeflections

I don't think anyone would doubt Paul's consistency or that he is a man of principle. But it's all moot because he will never get past the primary. Which is a good thing IMHO.

If he did become the nominee (3rd party), he might give Obama the toughest go of it tho. The far left might hold their nose on his economic policies and vote for him for his foreign policy - while the far right would hold their noses on his foreign policy and vote for him for his economic policies. Of course they may do the opposite and he would lose big time.




I think people much smarter than us would disagree on the bailouts. We'll never know for sure but a worldwide depression that most economists predicted could have caused a calamity that would have lasted decades. Rather than complain about the bailouts, the answer is to never let us get into that predicament again. That's where the GOP is failing IMO. That is also where I disagree with Paul. Unbridled free market does not work. No, that doesn't make me a Socialist - there is a happy medium between no regulations and over regulations.

People much smarter than us? You mean like the financial experts who 5 years ago told us we didn't have a housing problem? Ron Paul has been predicting this crisis for over ten years. He just about gave a date on it, when it would occur, and why. That speech is linked earlier in this thread.

As far as a unbridled free market. You know nothing about it. There hasn't been one for as long as any of us have been alive. Government interferes with the market, creates false monopolies, limits competition, subsidizes failing companies, props up prices in markets that can handle it while it holds other markets lower, and then it cries foul when things get out of whack.

What you are seeing today, this entire freaking mess, is a direct result of gov't intervention into a free market. See, that's the thing about a free market. It will work, if it's free. But when there are outside influences that screw it up, it all goes to hell. The ironic part, is when it goes to hell, we blame the free market, and not the gov't influences that cause the failure.

You can bet your last dollar...if we didn't have privatized profits and socialized losses, a lot of our big companies would act very differently.

[Reeflections]

Originally Posted by Kerbouchard

People much smarter than us? You mean like the financial experts who 5 years ago told us we didn't have a housing problem? Ron Paul has been predicting this crisis for over ten years. He just about gave a date on it, when it would occur, and why. That speech is linked earlier in this thread.

Ron Paul wasn't the only one that predicted the collapse. If fact, many others, including Paul Krugman also predicted it but for different reasons that were sometimes the opposite of RP's reasons. So we can argue forever about who was right but I admit that Krugman and Ron Paul both know a lot more about the economy than me - and maybe you too. I also believe that Krugman knows a lot more than RP about the economy just like I believe RP would know a lot more than Krugman about how to deliver babies.

What I do assume from past experience, is that when BP was in bed with regulators instead of controlled by them, they damn near ruined the entire Gulf of Mexico, and if they are not regulated now, they would do it again. Completely unbridled free market may be good for corporations in the shot term but they are not good for people. Corporations only goal is to increase the bottom line. This is dangerous to humans and the earth we need. RP says that corporations would do right or they wouldn't survive. That makes sense if you are talking about a retail store, but not a major Corporation that is not being regulated.

Originally Posted by Kerbouchard

You can bet your last dollar...if we didn't have privatized profits and socialized losses, a lot of our big companies would act very differently.

Totally agree but they would still need to be regulated. You see, I do agree with RP on many things but I vehemently disagree with him on some other very important issues.