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Depends on what they think the current market is. ......
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The stabilization piece I'm not sure of how they would
care to play that. Fuji doesn't have it in their mirrorless
bodies, and can't, and Fuji is coming out with top notch
lenses that don't have it either, ... .. ..... .......
Apply your opening remark [about market trending] to your
later remark about Fuji and IBIS. It works. No such thing as
"can't". Word is out that Fuji will meet the demand for IBIS.

Fuji has not leaked any detail, but the "can't" apparently is
true only if Fuji sticks to an 18x24 format. But, since motion
blur is actually rather tiny in size, my imagination sees Fuji
simply shaving about 1mm offa the format ... same as Canon
has been building all along with no huge negative reaction by
the marketplace .... and Canon never offered still-photo IBIS.

You don't hear any squawking about Canon's 1.6X crop factor
vs everyone else's 1.5X. Canon's kit lens has the same FL as
any other brand, and nobody cares that the FF equivalent is
29-88mm instead of 27-83mm ... no big deal. The real "Big
Deal" is "No IBIS" :-(
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Not arguing that IBIS isn't a big deal.... since I'm an Olympus user, IBIS is a big deal to me, or at least a normal thing I expect. I'd think IBIS wouldn't be a big deal if it was only 1-3 stops like Olympus have like 7 years ago when people scoffed at IBIS... but since their IBIS is now 5.5 stops, and 6.5 when coupled with the one Olympus lens that allows "Dual IS"... it is BIG deal...

Now wether it is a big deal to some users, can't speak for them. Obviously, you think that if you are popping out a new mirrorless then it ought to have it, and I'd agree. Sony agreed after a model. But does Nikon?
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Sony α9 is FF, and IBIS (5 stop). Sony provides sensors to Nikon. Has for a long time. If Nikon "can't" do IBIS, it must be because of patent/licensing issues keeping the technology uneconomical with Nikon's production costs. It's not a technical issue. That's for sure.
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I've never seriously considered mirrorless. But the one thing that intrigues me about them is the ability to get adapters to use classic old lenses. You can do that with DLSR's too. . . except Nikon because of the flange to sensor distance. I've bought an adapter to use an old Takumar with Nikon and the cheap glass element in the adapter destroys the whole reason for doing it.I'd assume that would also be an issue with their mirrorless.
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I've never seriously considered mirrorless. But the one thing that
intrigues me about them is the ability to get adapters to use classic
old lenses. ..............

I've bought an adapter to use an old Takumar with Nikon and the
cheap glass element in the adapter destroys the whole reason for
doing it.I'd assume that would also be an issue with their mirrorless.

If Nikon makes an N/F mount live view camera, that problem will
possibly hugely reduce its market appeal. OTOH, vast reserves of
ancient Nikkors will fit it, and thaz at least fully half of all the old
glass anywhere thaz actually worth using.

But hopefully Nikon will follow the Sony model, meaning a shallow
bodied live view camera plus converters to mount the legacy lenses
with their longer flange distance, with full compatibility.

I'm not placing any bets .... none. But if Nikon really does produce
a live view "breakthrough", with APSC format and N/F flange, but
no IBIS .... that should demonstrate that Nikon is unfit to continue
in the photo bidnez. Darwinism will prevail, either way.


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