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Old 01-21-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Question what kind of Portrait lens

Hello,

I'm sure this question has been asked before somewhere I just could not find it.
I have a Nikon D100 and have been using it sparingly for the last couple of years as a hobbyist, and now I would like to get into taking personal family portraits.
My question is what kind of lens do I need to buy for studio quality portraits ??

Thanks for your Help

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Old 01-21-2008   #2 (permalink)
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I think it depends on how much flexibility you are looking for and the lighting you will have as well. I use a 85 f1.8 and 50 f1.8 but have used a 17-55mm f2.8 as well. I like the 17-55mm when shooting very young kids because you never know where they are going to go and if you need to back out on your zoom. The two primes are more for set-shots where I know where they will be sitting and how many there will be in the shot. If you are using a backdrop you will more thank likely want to keep your f-stop below 4 so you can frame the subject and not have to worry about wrinkles, creases and such in the backdrop. I have done some close up work with a 60mm micro as well.
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Does the 17-55 mm have the capability to keep the f-stop below 4?

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Does the 17-55 mm have the capability to keep the f-stop below 4?

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Yes it's 2.8 through the range
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Default Re: what kind of Portrait lens

I'll 2nd the 1.8 85, which to me is a lens with perfect optical performance. On my D200 I use it less often, as I feel it to be a bit long with cropped sensor size.

I have an MF 1.8 50 AIS and a 1.4 50 AF D lens as well. From the optics I'd rather recommend the 1.4 50, although my copy is sort of borderline in the centre sharpness. The 1.8 doesn't quite match with corner performance, which is not particularly important for portraits.

Personally I prefer my MF non MC 1.2 55 lens for portraits though. To most people prime lenses (fix focals) are more suitable for formal portrait pictures.

When kids come into the play, I guess a zoom lens could be a good idea.

I think the Voigtlaender Nokton 58mm MF (with CPU) lens that just came out, could be very interesting here, to mention something exotic.

Considering budget, I'd get a 50mm lens and spend more money on lighting and perhaps backdrops.

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The lens surely depends on your lights. If trying to use continuous hot lights, then a f/1.8 lens is probably pretty important, probably at ISO 400 to achieve a 1/60 second shutter. But if using decent flash units, like Alienbees, light is no problem, and you will be up around f/8 or f/11, and a f/1.8 lens is about the last thing you need. F/8 or f/11 also improves the inexpensive f/4 or f/5.6 zooms.

We hear of 85 to 105mm "portrait lenses" historically, but of course, that was for full frame 35 mm film, in the days before the 1.5x lens factors. For most of todays DSLR, that would be 50 to 70mm now, to be equivalent.

Focal length depends a bit on how much space you have, but you do always want the camera to be at least 5 or 6 feet from subject for proper perspective, to prevent making noses look larger when up too close. So for the DSLR 1.5x lens factor, you want 50mm to 70mm to get proper framing for a portrait (at the same distance as the 85-105mm full frame lenses for film - at least 5 or 6 feet).

You need 5 or 6 feet behind the subject too, in front of background, so we're talking a minimum of 15 or 16 feet for the total setup. With an 85mm lens today, you'll need quite a bit more space, to back away far enough from the subject. Which is fine if you have the space, but such space is a bit rare sometimes.
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A bit of news! The Voigtlaender Nokton 1.4 58 has been reviewed on photozone! If you're interested in this lens, take a look here: Voigtlander Nokton 58mm f/1.4 SL II - Test Report / Review

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Hello,
My question is what kind of lens do I need to buy for studio quality portraits ??
If you are primarily shooting in a studio, then any el cheapo lens would be fine. A simple zoom lens would be very convenient - say a 28-105, 55-200, you can pick any lens in 28 to 200mm range. Since you will set your shutter speed and hopefully your aperture at f/8 or smaller, it is the sweet spot for most of the lenses and they will perform well. Also since you said family portraits, you'll most probably be using f/8 or smaller.

If you're talking about outdoorsy kind of professional portraits, then then all bets are off. The Nikon 85mm f/1.8 is a great lens and can be yours for about $400 in the U.S.A. The Nikon 85mm f/1.4 is the king of the hill and costs that much. Rumor has it that Nikon is upgrading this gem with an AF-S motor this mid-summer.

Good luck.
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Sean, looks like only 2,8 workable with this lens, for me, at least. Thanks for pointing. Dimitri
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I think you're right. Just downloaded the full size images. Cheers, Sean.

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