SB800, AB800 and D80 - PhotoCamel

AJW390 · 12-18-2007

Can these 3 be triggered via wires? I don't want to spend the money right now for PWs for a couple more months but I wanted to play around with a wired version if it can be done. The AB comes with the sync cord and I get how to do it with the camera alone but I am not sure exactly what else I need to add the SB800 to it off camera for like a hair light or background light etc. I have a Wein Safe on camera which I plug the AB into and the SB800 would get plugged into where?? and with what cord?? Thanks in advance.

cyclohexane · 12-18-2007

I'm pretty sure you can trigger the Alien Bee using the built-in optical slave. Connect your sync cord to the SB-800, and don't connect anything to the AB800. The light from the SB-800 should trigger the AB800.

AJW390 · 12-18-2007

I need a different sync cord than what came with the AB800 right??....because the mono plug end(I think that is what it is called) will not fit into my SB800 anywhere.....

cyclohexane · 12-18-2007

Yes, you'll need a different sync cord without the mono plug.

Nikonfreak · 12-18-2007

D80 flash in commander mode, triggers the SB 800, which fires the AB 800 optically.

Julio

cyclohexane · 12-18-2007

I'd be worried about the preflashes from the pop-up flash and SB-800, but if it works...

AJW390 · 12-18-2007

Thank you gentleman. You guys are always so helpful and I appreciate it! Karma to you!

AJW390 · 12-18-2007

Okay I just tried it with the SB800 on camera to see if it would fire the AB and IT WORKED!!! Wow! I have never done this before and think it is the neatest thing since sliced bread! One problem, I think, is that I was using the Wein Safe Sync and the SB800 is a little loose on the hot shoe anyway but when I used it with the WSS every wiggle it made triggered the AB off. It didn't trigger the AB when I took the WSS off and just had the SB800 directly in the camera hot shoe. I am assuming that when I get that little adapter cord for the SB800 I can use the WSS on camera and plug the adapter into that right?? It shouldn't fire it off so easily then right? Actually I got to thinking and maybe it was because it was in "A" mode instead of "M".....hmmm....

One more thing is that the pop up flash did NOT go off. I never use that one anyway so I think maybe I had it shut off already....

Thanks again in advance.

rootrider · 12-18-2007

the on-board flash isn't used for exposure when in commander mode. It is only used to provide information to the wireless flashes.

cyclohexane · 12-19-2007

Quote:

the on-board flash isn't used for exposure when in commander mode. It is only used to provide information to the wireless flashes.

The D80, D200, and D300 on-board flashes do add to exposure in commander mode under default settings.

rootrider · 12-19-2007

whoops.. forgot this thread was about the d80.

12-18-2007	#1 (permalink)
AJW390 Vicuna Posts: 231 CamelKarma: 32 Gallery \| Blog	SB800, AB800 and D80 Can these 3 be triggered via wires? I don't want to spend the money right now for PWs for a couple more months but I wanted to play around with a wired version if it can be done. The AB comes with the sync cord and I get how to do it with the camera alone but I am not sure exactly what else I need to add the SB800 to it off camera for like a hair light or background light etc. I have a Wein Safe on camera which I plug the AB into and the SB800 would get plugged into where?? and with what cord?? Thanks in advance. __________________ Members don't see ads in threads. Register your free account today and become a member on PhotoCamel - Your Friendly Photo Forum, gaining access to posting privileges, contests, free plug-ins and other downloads, unlimited online storage for your photographs, reviews, free marketplace listings, and much more.
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12-18-2007	#2 (permalink)
cyclohexane Photocamel Master Location: SF Bay Area or Los Angeles, California Posts: 5,149 CamelKarma: 1065 Editing OK?: Ask first Gallery \| Blog	Re: SB800, AB800 and D80 I'm pretty sure you can trigger the Alien Bee using the built-in optical slave. Connect your sync cord to the SB-800, and don't connect anything to the AB800. The light from the SB-800 should trigger the AB800.
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AJW390 Vicuna Posts: 231 CamelKarma: 32 Gallery \| Blog	Re: SB800, AB800 and D80 I need a different sync cord than what came with the AB800 right??....because the mono plug end(I think that is what it is called) will not fit into my SB800 anywhere.....
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12-18-2007	#4 (permalink)
cyclohexane Photocamel Master Location: SF Bay Area or Los Angeles, California Posts: 5,149 CamelKarma: 1065 Editing OK?: Ask first Gallery \| Blog	Re: SB800, AB800 and D80 Yes, you'll need a different sync cord without the mono plug.
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Nikonfreak F1 Camel Location: South Florida Posts: 3,114 CamelKarma: 1168 Editing OK?: Ask first Gallery \| Blog	Re: SB800, AB800 and D80 D80 flash in commander mode, triggers the SB 800, which fires the AB 800 optically. Julio
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12-18-2007	#6 (permalink)
cyclohexane Photocamel Master Location: SF Bay Area or Los Angeles, California Posts: 5,149 CamelKarma: 1065 Editing OK?: Ask first Gallery \| Blog	Re: SB800, AB800 and D80 I'd be worried about the preflashes from the pop-up flash and SB-800, but if it works...
	__________________ -Michael

12-18-2007	#7 (permalink)
AJW390 Vicuna Posts: 231 CamelKarma: 32 Gallery \| Blog	Re: SB800, AB800 and D80 Thank you gentleman. You guys are always so helpful and I appreciate it! Karma to you!
AJW390 Vicuna Posts: 231 CamelKarma: 32 Gallery \| Blog

12-18-2007	#8 (permalink)
AJW390 Vicuna Posts: 231 CamelKarma: 32 Gallery \| Blog	Re: SB800, AB800 and D80 Okay I just tried it with the SB800 on camera to see if it would fire the AB and IT WORKED!!! Wow! I have never done this before and think it is the neatest thing since sliced bread! One problem, I think, is that I was using the Wein Safe Sync and the SB800 is a little loose on the hot shoe anyway but when I used it with the WSS every wiggle it made triggered the AB off. It didn't trigger the AB when I took the WSS off and just had the SB800 directly in the camera hot shoe. I am assuming that when I get that little adapter cord for the SB800 I can use the WSS on camera and plug the adapter into that right?? It shouldn't fire it off so easily then right? Actually I got to thinking and maybe it was because it was in "A" mode instead of "M".....hmmm.... One more thing is that the pop up flash did NOT go off. I never use that one anyway so I think maybe I had it shut off already.... Thanks again in advance.
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12-18-2007	#9 (permalink)
rootrider Guanaco Location: Washington state Posts: 433 CamelKarma: 48 Editing OK?: Ask first Gallery \| Blog	Re: SB800, AB800 and D80 the on-board flash isn't used for exposure when in commander mode. It is only used to provide information to the wireless flashes.
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12-19-2007	#11 (permalink)
rootrider Guanaco Location: Washington state Posts: 433 CamelKarma: 48 Editing OK?: Ask first Gallery \| Blog	Re: SB800, AB800 and D80 whoops.. forgot this thread was about the d80. __________________ Members don't see ads in threads. Register your free account today and become a member on PhotoCamel - Your Friendly Photo Forum, gaining access to posting privileges, contests, free plug-ins and other downloads, unlimited online storage for your photographs, reviews, free marketplace listings, and much more.
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