Using TTL mode - PhotoCamel

D50here · 12-17-2007

I've got a D50 and a Speedlight SB-80DX, but I can't get it to sync up in TTL mode. Shutter won't fire. Am I doing something wrong here or is that flash not compatible with the D50. Thanks!
RC

Latinbob · 12-17-2007

I don't think TTL works with the D50 and that flash. Try the flash in Auto and see if it fires when you trip the shutter. I think the D50 is only fully compatible (iTTL) with the SB-600 and SB-800.

Bob

D50here · 12-17-2007

Yeah, I've been shooting in Manual mode with it for a while. Just wondering if it would work in TTL. Thanks!
RC

cyclohexane · 12-17-2007

The SB-80DX predates the D50, and is incompatible in TTL mode.

Nikonfreak · 12-17-2007

The SB 80 DX is a D-TTL flash and I believe he D50 uses the newer i-TTL

The flash should work in "A" or "M" modes.

Julio

rootrider · 12-17-2007

Yup, the D50 doesn't support d-TTL.. only i-TTL. You'll need a d70 or better to use a d-TTL flash the way it was intended.

cyclohexane · 12-17-2007

Actually, the D70 doesn't support D-TTL either.

The D2 bodies (H, X, and their S versions) maintained D-TTL compatibility so that D1/H/X users could continue to use their flashes, but I doubt many people still use D-TTL flashes if they own an i-TTL capable camera, as i-TTL offers a significant improvement over D-TTL. I've only seen one shooter not go to the SB-600/800 flashes for her i-TTL camera.

The D3 doesn't list D-TTL as supported but I've read/heard reports that it is still D-TTL compatible.

rootrider · 12-18-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyclohexane

Actually, the D70 doesn't support D-TTL either.

you sure? I found things that said it did

cyclohexane · 12-18-2007

Thom mentions that it isn't supported in his review, and it's unusual that he's wrong.

No mention of D-TTL in the manual. Also, I've tried the SB-28DX on top of a D70; no TTL.

D.Rodgers · 12-18-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by rootrider

you sure? I found things that said it did

Works in A&M mode just checked the manual.
All the new models require i-TTL flashes (d70,d70s,d50,d80 etc)for TTL.
It's the one thing that Nikon did that i hate.
I have numerous after market flashes that i use on manual.
The upside is that the old flashes still work;Cannon needs specific models,and apparently damage can be done to the camera if a non specific flash is used.

cyclohexane · 12-18-2007

Quote:

Cannon needs specific models,and apparently damage can be done to the camera if a non specific flash is used.

Canon rates its hotshoes at a much lower voltage level than Nikon does. All Nikon cameras can withstand up to 250 V of trigger voltage; Canon's sub-$2000 models (and 5D) are rated much lower, something like 12 V? Someone like Max should know... =)

Bonner · 12-18-2007

I had that flash for my 5700/8700 Nikons. Then I found out right away it did not work TTL with my D70.

D.Rodgers · 12-18-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyclohexane

Canon rates its hotshoes at a much lower voltage level than Nikon does. All Nikon cameras can withstand up to 250 V of trigger voltage; Canon's sub-$2000 models (and 5D) are rated much lower, something like 12 V? Someone like Max should know... =)

Just something i picked up checking for flashes for the wifes Rebel xti.
Found postings referring to cpu damage from non cannon specific flashes.
I did try one anyways,and it fired when mounted but wouldn't trigger again.
I'm no expert here,but things were much simpler with flash bulbs

12-17-2007	#1 (permalink)
D50here Vicuna Location: Georgia Posts: 190 CamelKarma: 61 Editing OK?: Yes Gallery \| Blog	Using TTL mode I've got a D50 and a Speedlight SB-80DX, but I can't get it to sync up in TTL mode. Shutter won't fire. Am I doing something wrong here or is that flash not compatible with the D50. Thanks! RC __________________ __________________ Members don't see this ad. Register your free account today and become a member on PhotoCamel - Your Friendly Photo Community, gaining access to posting privileges, contests, free plug-ins and other downloads, unlimited online storage for your photographs, reviews, free marketplace listings, and much more.
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12-17-2007	#2 (permalink)
Latinbob Llama Posts: 962 CamelKarma: 182 Editing OK?: Ask first Gallery \| Blog	Re: Using TTL mode I don't think TTL works with the D50 and that flash. Try the flash in Auto and see if it fires when you trip the shutter. I think the D50 is only fully compatible (iTTL) with the SB-600 and SB-800. Bob

12-17-2007	#3 (permalink)
D50here Vicuna Location: Georgia Posts: 190 CamelKarma: 61 Editing OK?: Yes Gallery \| Blog	Re: Using TTL mode Yeah, I've been shooting in Manual mode with it for a while. Just wondering if it would work in TTL. Thanks! RC
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12-17-2007	#4 (permalink)
cyclohexane F1 Camel Location: Westwood Posts: 4,662 CamelKarma: 685 Editing OK?: Ask first Gallery \| Blog	Re: Using TTL mode The SB-80DX predates the D50, and is incompatible in TTL mode.
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12-17-2007	#5 (permalink)
Nikonfreak F1 Camel Location: South Florida Posts: 2,545 CamelKarma: 266 Editing OK?: Ask first Gallery \| Blog	Re: Using TTL mode The SB 80 DX is a D-TTL flash and I believe he D50 uses the newer i-TTL The flash should work in "A" or "M" modes. Julio
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12-17-2007	#6 (permalink)
rootrider Guanaco Location: Washington state Posts: 433 CamelKarma: 48 Editing OK?: Ask first Gallery \| Blog	Re: Using TTL mode Yup, the D50 doesn't support d-TTL.. only i-TTL. You'll need a d70 or better to use a d-TTL flash the way it was intended.
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12-17-2007	#7 (permalink)
cyclohexane F1 Camel Location: Westwood Posts: 4,662 CamelKarma: 685 Editing OK?: Ask first Gallery \| Blog	Re: Using TTL mode Actually, the D70 doesn't support D-TTL either. The D2 bodies (H, X, and their S versions) maintained D-TTL compatibility so that D1/H/X users could continue to use their flashes, but I doubt many people still use D-TTL flashes if they own an i-TTL capable camera, as i-TTL offers a significant improvement over D-TTL. I've only seen one shooter not go to the SB-600/800 flashes for her i-TTL camera. The D3 doesn't list D-TTL as supported but I've read/heard reports that it is still D-TTL compatible.
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12-18-2007	#9 (permalink)
cyclohexane F1 Camel Location: Westwood Posts: 4,662 CamelKarma: 685 Editing OK?: Ask first Gallery \| Blog	Re: Using TTL mode Thom mentions that it isn't supported in his review, and it's unusual that he's wrong. No mention of D-TTL in the manual. Also, I've tried the SB-28DX on top of a D70; no TTL.
	__________________ -Michael

12-18-2007	#12 (permalink)
Bonner Guanaco Location: Ventura, California Posts: 326 CamelKarma: 68 Gallery \| Blog	Re: Using TTL mode I had that flash for my 5700/8700 Nikons. Then I found out right away it did not work TTL with my D70.

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