PhotoCamel: Your friendly photo community, with free discussion forums, digital photography reviews, photo sharing, galleries, downloads, blogs, photography contests, and prizes.
Photo of the Week Photo of the Week

Go Back   PhotoCamel - Your Friendly Photo Community > The Photographer > Image Editing and Color Management

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-28-2007   #1 (permalink)
Guanaco
 
DeadSmiley's Avatar
 
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 265
DeadSmiley is a glorious beacon of light
CamelKarma: 77
Default Portrait Using Mr. Pickles Lucis Art Technique

After seeing the results Mr. Pickles was getting using this technique... Lucis Like in Lightroom?
I had to try it for myself.



I have to say that I really like the results. This was from the RAW file straight from the camera. All the PP was done in ACR. I did nothing to it after that other than save it as a JPG. I tried not to go too extreme with it.

I toyed with it on a few other shots and found that you need to use this technique on the right image otherwise it looks REALLY strange.

C&C Welcome as always.

__________________
__________________
Members don't see this ad. Register your free account today and become a member on PhotoCamel - Your Friendly Photo Community, gaining access to posting privileges, contests, free plug-ins and other downloads, unlimited online storage for your photographs, reviews, free marketplace listings, and much more.
__________________
It's not about the camera...

My Personal Website - My SmugMug Galleries - SmugMug Referral Code: zvsZOpJtKzUJ6
DeadSmiley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2007   #2 (permalink)
Camel Breath
 
jfrancho's Avatar
 
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 10,694
jfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armor
CamelKarma: 1742
Editing OK?: No
Default Re: Portrait Using Mr. Pickles Lucis Art Technique

As I said in my email, I think what makes some of these drastic edits work, is starting with a really well exposed base image. The cheeks nose and chin may be a little hot, but I think that may be part of the look. Its an appealing process to me. I assume you did this in ACR 4, since many of the controls are similar to LR?
__________________
¿ <°)))))><
jfrancho is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2007   #3 (permalink)
Guanaco
 
DeadSmiley's Avatar
 
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 265
DeadSmiley is a glorious beacon of light
CamelKarma: 77
Default Re: Portrait Using Mr. Pickles Lucis Art Technique

Quote:
Originally Posted by jfrancho View Post
As I said in my email, I think what makes some of these drastic edits work, is starting with a really well exposed base image. The cheeks nose and chin may be a little hot, but I think that may be part of the look. Its an appealing process to me. I assume you did this in ACR 4, since many of the controls are similar to LR?

Yep...ACR 4 in CS3. I probably would have taken the nose and cheeks down a touch if I had continued to edit it in CS3 but you are right it does seem to be a part of the look.

Honestly, my favorite part of the image is what happened to his hair. It just pops. I'll post the original image tonight so you can see the difference.


__________________
It's not about the camera...

My Personal Website - My SmugMug Galleries - SmugMug Referral Code: zvsZOpJtKzUJ6
DeadSmiley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2007   #4 (permalink)
Photocamel Master
 
Worm324's Avatar
 
Location: NY, USA
Posts: 7,113
Worm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armor
CamelKarma: 4805
Editing OK?: Yes
Default Re: Portrait Using Mr. Pickles Lucis Art Technique

It looks like an HDR image with very little light smoothing, especially on the hair I really like it and I'm going to give it a try when I get home!!

Best,
Jay
__________________
Jason

Comments and suggestions always appreciated
-Canon 40D, Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L IS, Canon EF-S 17-55 f/2.8 IS, Canon f/1.8 50mm, Sigma 10-20, Tamron 28-300, 508exII Flash
-Canon Rebel XTI
My Full Picture Gallery
My Photography Portfolio

Worm324 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2007   #5 (permalink)
Camel Breath
 
jfrancho's Avatar
 
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 10,694
jfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armor
CamelKarma: 1742
Editing OK?: No
Default Re: Portrait Using Mr. Pickles Lucis Art Technique

Quote:
It looks like an HDR image
That's all that shadow recovery - very similar effect.
__________________
¿ <°)))))><
jfrancho is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2007   #6 (permalink)
Photocamel Master
 
Worm324's Avatar
 
Location: NY, USA
Posts: 7,113
Worm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armor
CamelKarma: 4805
Editing OK?: Yes
Default Re: Portrait Using Mr. Pickles Lucis Art Technique

It sure is I've noticed the Shadow/ Highlight adjustment in PS has the same effect, but the Halos it creates are ridiculous so I rarely use it.

Jay
__________________
Jason

Comments and suggestions always appreciated
-Canon 40D, Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L IS, Canon EF-S 17-55 f/2.8 IS, Canon f/1.8 50mm, Sigma 10-20, Tamron 28-300, 508exII Flash
-Canon Rebel XTI
My Full Picture Gallery
My Photography Portfolio

Worm324 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2007   #7 (permalink)
Camel Breath
 
jfrancho's Avatar
 
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 10,694
jfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armor
CamelKarma: 1742
Editing OK?: No
Default Re: Portrait Using Mr. Pickles Lucis Art Technique

The problem is you're using it as a global adjustment. Start using masks, and halos aren't an issue. many of the filters and adjustments in Photoshop don't really become anything beyond novelty, until you use them with a mask.
__________________
¿ <°)))))><
jfrancho is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2007   #8 (permalink)
Photocamel Master
 
Worm324's Avatar
 
Location: NY, USA
Posts: 7,113
Worm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armor
CamelKarma: 4805
Editing OK?: Yes
Default Re: Portrait Using Mr. Pickles Lucis Art Technique

Very true Masks take so much time though Good ones anyways!

Best,
Jay
__________________
Jason

Comments and suggestions always appreciated
-Canon 40D, Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L IS, Canon EF-S 17-55 f/2.8 IS, Canon f/1.8 50mm, Sigma 10-20, Tamron 28-300, 508exII Flash
-Canon Rebel XTI
My Full Picture Gallery
My Photography Portfolio

Worm324 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2007   #9 (permalink)
Camel Breath
 
jfrancho's Avatar
 
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 10,694
jfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armor
CamelKarma: 1742
Editing OK?: No
Default Re: Portrait Using Mr. Pickles Lucis Art Technique

Use "Find Edges" and color between the lines That's my quickie method. Then apply the mask, and fill a new mask in with black, and quickly paint the effect in. Five minute job.
__________________
¿ <°)))))><
jfrancho is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2007   #10 (permalink)
Photocamel Master
 
Worm324's Avatar
 
Location: NY, USA
Posts: 7,113
Worm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorWorm324 strides over the forum like a knight in shining armor
CamelKarma: 4805
Editing OK?: Yes
Default Re: Portrait Using Mr. Pickles Lucis Art Technique

Nice trick you got there!! Thanks for the tip! I'll try that tonight as well!

Best,
Jay
__________________
Jason

Comments and suggestions always appreciated
-Canon 40D, Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L IS, Canon EF-S 17-55 f/2.8 IS, Canon f/1.8 50mm, Sigma 10-20, Tamron 28-300, 508exII Flash
-Canon Rebel XTI
My Full Picture Gallery
My Photography Portfolio

Worm324 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2007   #11 (permalink)
Former Camel
 
Location: Vancouver Island, Canada
Posts: 1,487
heartseye has a reputation beyond reputeheartseye has a reputation beyond reputeheartseye has a reputation beyond reputeheartseye has a reputation beyond reputeheartseye has a reputation beyond repute
CamelKarma: 460
Editing OK?: No
Default Re: Portrait Using Mr. Pickles Lucis Art Technique

That's a lot of techie chat about how to make a portrait look ugly! Now, If he is a politcion....well.......
heartseye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2007   #12 (permalink)
Camel Breath
 
jfrancho's Avatar
 
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 10,694
jfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armorjfrancho strides over the forum like a knight in shining armor
CamelKarma: 1742
Editing OK?: No
Default Re: Portrait Using Mr. Pickles Lucis Art Technique

I guess ugly is in the eye of the beholder
__________________
¿ <°)))))><
jfrancho is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2007   #13 (permalink)
Guanaco
 
DeadSmiley's Avatar
 
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 265
DeadSmiley is a glorious beacon of light
CamelKarma: 77
Default Re: Portrait Using Mr. Pickles Lucis Art Technique

Here's the original pic...

__________________
It's not about the camera...

My Personal Website - My SmugMug Galleries - SmugMug Referral Code: zvsZOpJtKzUJ6
DeadSmiley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2007   #14 (permalink)
Photocamel Master
 
aam1234's Avatar
 
Posts: 5,469
aam1234 has a reputation beyond reputeaam1234 has a reputation beyond reputeaam1234 has a reputation beyond reputeaam1234 has a reputation beyond reputeaam1234 has a reputation beyond repute
CamelKarma: 463
Editing OK?: Ask first
Default Re: Portrait Using Mr. Pickles Lucis Art Technique

Honestly, I prefer the original. However, I'm sure that technique will give good results in a different application, say street photography or some other uses.
__________________
It's all about light, my friend.
aam1234 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2007   #15 (permalink)
Photocamel Master
 
aam1234's Avatar
 
Posts: 5,469
aam1234 has a reputation beyond reputeaam1234 has a reputation beyond reputeaam1234 has a reputation beyond reputeaam1234 has a reputation beyond reputeaam1234 has a reputation beyond repute
CamelKarma: 463
Editing OK?: Ask first
Default Re: Portrait Using Mr. Pickles Lucis Art Technique

This lady is a member of the photo contest I participated in and she has, what appears to me, a technique similar to yours. I think her application and setting is better, imo, because they are outdoors as apposed to a studio.

Have a look:
- Example 1.
- Example 2.

Let me know what you think.

Edit: removed example 3 because the technique wasn't used there. Thanks Lonnit for the correction.
__________________
It's all about light, my friend.
aam1234 is online now   Reply With Quote