Portrait Using Mr. Pickles Lucis Art Technique

[aam1234]

Wrong term. It's not over-exposed but there are hot spots around the eyes/nose area, including the cheeks.

[jfrancho]

Yet, you described it as "flat." Your descriptions are confusing and contradictory. I can see if you don't like the processing, but I don't understand what you point is? Keep in mind, this is the FIRST ATTEMPT.

[aam1234]

Btw, I think Photo of the Week in the upper right corner is an excellent example to use this technique with (Nov 29).

[aam1234]

Not sure what's contradictory in my statement. Hot spots and flat are not mutually exclusive, in my non-expert opinion.

I'll post an example from my own photos in a minute.

[aam1234]

Imo, my niece's cheeks and forehead have hot spots here. It was minimized by the deep tan she/they had from 3 weeks under the sun. But there are semi- hot spots there. Oh, and this photo is definitely flat.

[DeadSmiley]

Originally Posted by aam1234

Let's go back to square one, if you don't mind DS. I think the original is a bit over exposed and a bit flat, and that might have contributed to the unattractiveness of the PP photo. Just a guess here.

Btw 1. The lady asked and I gave her a link to this thread. Hope she joins in the discussion. Does one has to be a member to post in the Camel?

Btw 2. DS, hope you are not using this technique to cover up, let's say, less than optimal exposure, like what some people do with B&W

I will agree that his face is a bit hot...but certainly not overexposed in the sense that it is blown. As for it being flat...that is hard to say because when it comes to contrast I really think that it's mostly subjective unless it's extreme.

...and no, I'm in no way using this technique to cover anything up. If I thought the image was bad I wouldn't have used it. As John said, I'm simply looking to refine a technique that I really think could be used subtly to enhance a photograph.

I personally don't care for images that are "heavily processed". I think the first image I posted falls into that category and I think the photographer whose images that you posted a link to skirt into that realm as well. Honestly though, it's subjective. I can see how some people may really like it and I can also see where it could fulfill a client's needs for a particular "look" that they are requesting.

All I'm saying is that I believe that this can be used to give the photo a slightly different feel without making it look unnatural...and I really don't think I'm there yet, but I think the results could be really stunning.

I'll try it with a different image...

[jfrancho]

I personally don't care for images that are "heavily processed".

I like anything anyone is willing to pay money for Some things though are beyond my ability, though.

[aam1234]

That's cool, DS. Unlike some people (read: John, wink wink) we are not trying to prove anybody right or wrong. It's opinions we are trying to exchange here

And hot damn, I'm always wrong according to the trio (who shall remain nameless )

[DeadSmiley]

Originally Posted by jfrancho

I like anything anyone is willing to pay money for Some things though are beyond my ability, though.

True...I'm with you there...and just because I don't care for it doesn't mean that I won't do it to fulfill a client's request.

Money changes everything

[jfrancho]

What the hell are you talking about? I never said anyone was right or wrong, I just couldn't understand you well enough to even form an opinion.

[DeadSmiley]

Originally Posted by aam1234

That's cool, DS. Unlike some people (read: John, wink wink) we are not trying to prove anybody right or wrong. It's opinions we are trying to exchange here

And hot damn, I'm always wrong according to the trio (who shall remain nameless )

Yeah...as John can tell you, we don't always come down on the same side of the argument either. But that's a good thing.

Anyway... Let me ask you...the hot spots aside, are there aspects of what I have done to the image that you like? and do you think there some things you think I can do to push it in a better direction?

I appreciate the honesty...I would much rather have someone tell me that they don't like something I've than that they love it. Ego boost aside...I don't learn anything when someone likes my photos.

Thanks!

[jfrancho]

I'm always wrong according to the trio (who shall remain nameless )

Pickles, Brian, and me...for those playing along at home

[DeadSmiley]

Originally Posted by jfrancho

Pickles, Brian, and me...for those playing along at home

Speaking of which...I'd be interested in hear Pickles opinion on this whole thread. It is kinda his fault anyway.

[aam1234]

Originally Posted by jfrancho

Pickles, Brian, and me...for those playing along at home

Ha ha, yeah. Except you John, you are kind of 50:50. Depends on your catch of the day fishing.

[aam1234]

Originally Posted by DeadSmiley

and do you think there some things you think I can do to push it in a better direction?

I agree with Lonnit that this technique is better suited for outdoor photos with strong character.

Imo, Photo of the Week is a perfect example to use this method with.

Cheers