how do you make part of your picture jump outside the border? - PhotoCamel

edawn · 11-02-2005

I know I'm not asking this correctly, but I'm trying to get a certain look. I want the subject's face (a baby) to fill most of a circular shaped frame, but I don't want to cut off his arms - I want those to dangle outside of the main circle frame, within a larger square frame. I'm confident I can figure it out, but I thought maybe someone could share some techniques that would help simply the process for me??!

Elaine

mikej · 11-02-2005

I have the steps written up for Photoshop 7.01, Elaine. When I get home tonight I'll find it and post it for you (unless someone beats me too it before then). It's not all that difficult but it is about 12 steps or so.

Mike

mickle · 11-02-2005

Not sure if this is of any help to you.

Started out with this.

Duplicated the original layer.
Selected the area I wanted to keep and deleted the rest.

Created a new layer between these two and filled it with white.

Went back to the original layer and selected the flower and copied it.
Pasted it into a new layer at the top.

I then selected top layer and Merged Down to combine the cropped image and the flower.

I added a drop shadow to the cropped layer to finish with this.

edawn · 11-02-2005

Yes, that's what I'm after! Thank you very much for showing me your steps. What you did with that flower pic really makes it jump out at you. Thanks again!

Elaine

edawn · 11-02-2005

OK...here's my first attempt at such a thing!

JDArt · 11-02-2005

Very nice tutorial here.

cameraguy21773 · 11-02-2005

Nicely done to all yall!

Fish36990 · 12-02-2005

Wow....great lesson

Now I need to find a photo to try it out on....

Thank you,
Josh

Fish36990 · 12-03-2005

One quick question for everyone....

How are ya'll cutting out your subject so well?

I've tried the wand and even the cutting tool but mine don't look nearly as good as yours. Can anyone give me any tips to doing this better?

Thanks,

Josh

ohenry · 12-03-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish36990

One quick question for everyone....

How are ya'll cutting out your subject so well?

I've tried the wand and even the cutting tool but mine don't look nearly as good as yours. Can anyone give me any tips to doing this better?

Thanks,

Josh

Josh, there are so many different ways to make selections. I often will utilize several different methods to obtain a good selection. You didn't mention what editor you're using.

Mr. Pickles · 12-03-2005

OHenry is right. And I think from past memory, you have Photoshop.

Many different ways, and NONE of them should be used all the time. You can use the Magic Wand, or the Extract Filter, or pick with the Color Picker, and more and more.

For a LOT of knowledge on this whole subject, the book linked below is the best one to get, and will show you more than you'll want to know unless you really want to get into it:

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/boo...35712794&itm=1

Mr. Pickles · 12-03-2005

Ohh, in case someone wants a more in depth method for doing this in Photoshop, you could see the link below. It isn't the best method, and may not be a better tutorial than the one already here, but it is another view, and may answer some questions

http://www.pbase.com/image/28182867/original

ohenry · 12-03-2005

Excellent book recommendation, MrPickles. This book is the bible on selections, despite its onerous title.

mikej · 12-03-2005

I've always used the instructions that came out with about the first issue of Photoshop Users Magazine.

Mike

Fish36990 · 12-04-2005

Awesome pic MJ!

I'm using Photoshop 7.0 right now

I'll ride to B&N today and pick that book up if I have time.

Here's my first attempt at it. I had a hard time picking out the darker parts of the leaf where the magic wand would select part of the background also. There were a couple of small spots that were not picked up but I was lucky that the fill for the drop shaddow filled them and matched the original (pretty close) for me.

It's a start and I'll keep working on it as well as trying the new techniques that were mentioned above....once I figure out what ya'll are talking about.

Thanks and let me know what you think of it,

Josh

Fish36990 · 12-04-2005

I tried another one with the procedure listed on http://www.pbase.com/image/28182867/original that mr. Pickles listed. This was the first time I used a mask in Photoshop.

I know the pic isn't that good to start with but it was a good one to try this out with.

Here's how it turned out

Josh

ohenry · 12-04-2005

Josh...some Camel Karma for your efforts and sharing them with us. Keep it up. Photoshop is a never ending learning process. Be a sponge

dc2 · 12-04-2005

You got a karma on another thread Ohenry for help you give on selections

Mr. Pickles · 12-04-2005

Fish,

Doesn't have to be a good picture to start with. You made it different and learned new tricks. Now, when you see another pictrue that might work, you'll know what to do, and sometimes this "weird" stuff can make a so-so, a better image. That's what its about.

mikej · 12-04-2005

They look pretty good, Josh. That's a good adaption of the technique with the leaf.

Mike

11-02-2005	#1 (permalink)
edawn Llama Posts: 757 CamelKarma: 52 Gallery \| Blog	how do you make part of your picture jump outside the border? I know I'm not asking this correctly, but I'm trying to get a certain look. I want the subject's face (a baby) to fill most of a circular shaped frame, but I don't want to cut off his arms - I want those to dangle outside of the main circle frame, within a larger square frame. I'm confident I can figure it out, but I thought maybe someone could share some techniques that would help simply the process for me??! Elaine __________________ Members don't see ads in threads. Register your free account today and become a member on PhotoCamel - Your Friendly Photo Forum, gaining access to posting privileges, contests, free plug-ins and other downloads, unlimited online storage for your photographs, reviews, free marketplace listings, and much more.
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11-02-2005	#2 (permalink)
mikej Dromedary Posts: 1,528 CamelKarma: 65 Gallery \| Blog	Re: how do you make part of your picture jump outside the border? I have the steps written up for Photoshop 7.01, Elaine. When I get home tonight I'll find it and post it for you (unless someone beats me too it before then). It's not all that difficult but it is about 12 steps or so. Mike
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11-02-2005	#3 (permalink)
mickle Alpaca Posts: 17 CamelKarma: 12 Gallery \| Blog	Re: how do you make part of your picture jump outside the border? Not sure if this is of any help to you. Started out with this. Duplicated the original layer. Selected the area I wanted to keep and deleted the rest. Created a new layer between these two and filled it with white. Went back to the original layer and selected the flower and copied it. Pasted it into a new layer at the top. I then selected top layer and Merged Down to combine the cropped image and the flower. I added a drop shadow to the cropped layer to finish with this.
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11-02-2005	#4 (permalink)
edawn Llama Posts: 757 CamelKarma: 52 Gallery \| Blog	Re: how do you make part of your picture jump outside the border? Yes, that's what I'm after! Thank you very much for showing me your steps. What you did with that flower pic really makes it jump out at you. Thanks again! Elaine
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JDArt Camel Breath Location: Far out, man Posts: 15,681 CamelKarma: 4624 Editing OK?: Yes Gallery \| Blog	Re: how do you make part of your picture jump outside the border? Very nice tutorial here.
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11-02-2005	#7 (permalink)
cameraguy21773 Vicuna Posts: 163 CamelKarma: 15 Gallery \| Blog	This thread is a keeper ... put it in the hall of fame forum Nicely done to all yall!
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12-02-2005	#8 (permalink)
Fish36990 Vicuna Posts: 125 CamelKarma: 18 Gallery \| Blog	Re: how do you make part of your picture jump outside the border? Wow....great lesson Now I need to find a photo to try it out on.... Thank you, Josh

12-03-2005	#9 (permalink)
Fish36990 Vicuna Posts: 125 CamelKarma: 18 Gallery \| Blog	Re: how do you make part of your picture jump outside the border? One quick question for everyone.... How are ya'll cutting out your subject so well? I've tried the wand and even the cutting tool but mine don't look nearly as good as yours. Can anyone give me any tips to doing this better? Thanks, Josh

12-03-2005	#11 (permalink)
Mr. Pickles Camel Breath Location: Old Folks Home Posts: 12,362 CamelKarma: 6828 Gallery \| Blog	Re: how do you make part of your picture jump outside the border? OHenry is right. And I think from past memory, you have Photoshop. Many different ways, and NONE of them should be used all the time. You can use the Magic Wand, or the Extract Filter, or pick with the Color Picker, and more and more. For a LOT of knowledge on this whole subject, the book linked below is the best one to get, and will show you more than you'll want to know unless you really want to get into it: http://search.barnesandnoble.com/boo...35712794&itm=1
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12-03-2005	#12 (permalink)
Mr. Pickles Camel Breath Location: Old Folks Home Posts: 12,362 CamelKarma: 6828 Gallery \| Blog	Re: how do you make part of your picture jump outside the border? Ohh, in case someone wants a more in depth method for doing this in Photoshop, you could see the link below. It isn't the best method, and may not be a better tutorial than the one already here, but it is another view, and may answer some questions http://www.pbase.com/image/28182867/original
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12-03-2005	#13 (permalink)
ohenry Photocamel Master Location: Medford OR Posts: 5,767 CamelKarma: 3947 Editing OK?: No Gallery \| Blog	Re: how do you make part of your picture jump outside the border? Excellent book recommendation, MrPickles. This book is the bible on selections, despite its onerous title.
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12-03-2005	#14 (permalink)
mikej Dromedary Posts: 1,528 CamelKarma: 65 Gallery \| Blog	Re: how do you make part of your picture jump outside the border? I've always used the instructions that came out with about the first issue of Photoshop Users Magazine. Mike
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12-04-2005	#15 (permalink)
Fish36990 Vicuna Posts: 125 CamelKarma: 18 Gallery \| Blog	Re: how do you make part of your picture jump outside the border? Awesome pic MJ! I'm using Photoshop 7.0 right now I'll ride to B&N today and pick that book up if I have time. Here's my first attempt at it. I had a hard time picking out the darker parts of the leaf where the magic wand would select part of the background also. There were a couple of small spots that were not picked up but I was lucky that the fill for the drop shaddow filled them and matched the original (pretty close) for me. It's a start and I'll keep working on it as well as trying the new techniques that were mentioned above....once I figure out what ya'll are talking about. Thanks and let me know what you think of it, Josh

12-04-2005	#16 (permalink)
Fish36990 Vicuna Posts: 125 CamelKarma: 18 Gallery \| Blog	Re: how do you make part of your picture jump outside the border? I tried another one with the procedure listed on http://www.pbase.com/image/28182867/original that mr. Pickles listed. This was the first time I used a mask in Photoshop. I know the pic isn't that good to start with but it was a good one to try this out with. Here's how it turned out Josh

12-04-2005	#17 (permalink)
ohenry Photocamel Master Location: Medford OR Posts: 5,767 CamelKarma: 3947 Editing OK?: No Gallery \| Blog	Re: how do you make part of your picture jump outside the border? Josh...some Camel Karma for your efforts and sharing them with us. Keep it up. Photoshop is a never ending learning process. Be a sponge
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Mr. Pickles Camel Breath Location: Old Folks Home Posts: 12,362 CamelKarma: 6828 Gallery \| Blog	Re: how do you make part of your picture jump outside the border? Fish, Doesn't have to be a good picture to start with. You made it different and learned new tricks. Now, when you see another pictrue that might work, you'll know what to do, and sometimes this "weird" stuff can make a so-so, a better image. That's what its about.
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mikej Dromedary Posts: 1,528 CamelKarma: 65 Gallery \| Blog	Re: how do you make part of your picture jump outside the border? They look pretty good, Josh. That's a good adaption of the technique with the leaf. Mike __________________ Members don't see ads in threads. Register your free account today and become a member on PhotoCamel - Your Friendly Photo Forum, gaining access to posting privileges, contests, free plug-ins and other downloads, unlimited online storage for your photographs, reviews, free marketplace listings, and much more.
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