Lightroom - Not just Beta anymore

[Mr. Pickles]

Adobe Lightroom is going big time....in February.

http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pres...Lightroom.html

[dougsmit]

Anyone recall a promise for a spcecial break for registered owners of RawShooter Premium who got left out in the cold when Adobe bought the company?

[ohenry]

Originally Posted by Doug Smith

Anyone recall a promise for a spcecial break for registered owners of RawShooter Premium who got left out in the cold when Adobe bought the company?

Not a promise for a special price break....the promise was "free" for RSP users

[Mr. Pickles]

I recall. Still got the email too. From 7/13/06

RSP owners get a freebie 1.0

[Max@Home]

Now that we've joined the Adobe family, we must emphasize that RawShooter users also are now Adobe customers, regardless of whether you ever purchase another Adobe product. Your satisfaction matters to us. Specifically, Adobe will do the following:

Offer a free download version of Lightroom 1.0 for customers who bought RawShooter | premium prior to July 12th 2006, 12 noon European Standard Time. Given that Lightroom 1.0 will serve a much broader range of functionality and will be priced at a higher price point than RawShooter | premium, we believe this represents a great value for our customers

...I was a RSP user also... so, we will soon know what their promises are worth...

Max@Home

[Mr. Pickles]

In case anybody wondered, it will only be $199 until April 30th when it supposedly goes to $299.

Yeah, good luck with that $299 price there home boyz. Uhh, good luck with that $199 one too, since it is $50 too high.

Good thing mine BETTER be free.........

[ohenry]

According to Jack Nack of Adobe in a previous statement, RSP registered owners will be notified by email on or after the date that Lightroom 1.0 is released. Notification will provide download instructions. Shipment of disk, manual, etc is not an option for this offer.

[dougsmit]

There are two very different markets for this product. *Some of us want a do-all that will allow us to process photos from start to finish, file them neatly and spend no time in the process. *Others of us don't care about any feature they have which can already be found in another program that we have but we want a massive improvement in RAW conversion giving sparkling clean colors and exceptional control of dynamic range. *The Beta was poor at the first and horrible at the last (IMHO). *If they honor the promise of a free copy to RSP victims, I suppose I'll download it but using it for daily work is quite another matter. *The time elapsed since the Beta release suggests this will be a rush to market and they will fix problems on a version 2 which will not be free. *My bottom line is that if it does not convert clean reds better than DPP, it is trash. *I would prefer they not even package a file management program since I only want a great converter not a half hearted effort at everything.

[Max@Home]

Originally Posted by Mr. Pickles

Yeah, good luck with that $299 price there home boyz. Uhh, good luck with that $199 one too, since it is $50 too high.

...if I may ask, $50 too high compared to what other software ??

Kindest regards,

Max@Home

[Mr. Pickles]

If all you want is a great converter, then I have no idea why you are even looking at Lightroom, or even thinking about downloading it.

The best converter for you is DPP. I seriously doubt that ANYBODY has software that will be more accurate at color conversions than the people that make the camera system.

Lightroom is designed to manage, convert, and display images. one can argue that it isn't for the occasional shooter, but neither is PSCS, PSCS2, or PSCS3.

Lightroom is a good overall program that does a good job at several things. It is not as good at some things that programs like PS or PSP do well. And, PS and PSP are not as good at some things that LR does.

I think it needs to be $50 cheaper to force the Bibble and Sillypix people to drop the price of their converters, but I think it is worth $199 regardless.

[Mr. Pickles]

Originally Posted by ohenry

According to Jack Nack of Adobe in a previous statement......

To take this further so nobody asks...

From Adobe forum on Jan 5, 2007.

"The offer to provide Lightroom 1.0 free of charge to Pixmantec RawShooter Premium customers was disclosed via the FAQ on Pixmantec.com.(http://www.pixmantec.com/pdf/FAQ_Pixmantec.pdf) The offer still stands and Adobe will contact customers via the email address they used in the purchase process for RawShooter Premium. The program will begin the same day that Lightroom 1.0 ships but not before.

The tool to convert RSP settings to visually similar Adobe Camera Raw and Lightroom settings is also in development and I hope to provide it at the same time. (Caveat: Visually similar does not mean identical given the difference in processing algorithms)

Thanks for asking the question and it's been a pleasure having the RawShooter Premium customers join the discussion surrounding Lightroom's public preview development.

Regards,
Tom Hogarty
Adobe Systems

[Sid-EOS]

FWIW it is John Nack.

[Mr. Pickles]

I have seen reference to the fact that John did it, but never seen the quote. I have seen the one written above, with Tom's name. I know Tom answers more questions about it that John does, but it doesn't matter.

[Rense]

Im awaiting the e-mail from Adobe. If I compare RSP to Lightroom, I must say that RWS was more intuitive.
Soon after the news that RSP was bought by Adobe I started concentrating more and more on Bibble and Silkypix.