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Old 07-19-2012   #11
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Hi, Just in-case anyone is interested there is a one hour webinar (free) tonight and next week just have to send your email Addy to NIK.
Chance to watch and ask questions.
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Thanks for the heads up Russ.
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Thanks for the heads up Russ.
Hi, Yes but they canceled it an hour before the start
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Hi, Yes but they canceled it an hour before the start
Hmmmm. Not good.
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Old 08-13-2012   #15
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I want to like HDR Efex Pro, I really do. But I'm still less than impressed and use Photomatix 90% of the time.

If you're interested, I made some side-by-side comparisons awhile back here: HDR Software Compared - Sumptuous Art.

Scroll to the bottom of the page; the last two entries (at present) involve HEP2.

Here is another comparrison:

Merged in HEP2:

I think the haloing around the tops of the pylons is terrible.

Here's the same series from Photomatix:

Look how it handled the ghosting in the water - turned it into a chess board.

Here is a blend I made in Photoshop of the above two images:


All the above links take you to larger versions of the images. Once you're there, you can also find large versions of the source files that you are free to download and play with.

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Steve,

Please don't give up on nik HDR Pro yet. It's one of the best. I tried the free demo
and liked the results a lot. But I did not buy it because small font light grey text
on a dark grey background is very difficult to read if you have macular
degeneration - as I do. Look at Kev2010's posts, he uses it and likes it a lot.

There is something very wrong with your nik HDR Pro shot. The colours are
clogged and, as you say, you've got halos. That's the first time I have seen
halos come out of nik HDR Pro! I suspect you "tried too hard"! Please persevere
with this software!

5 minutes with Photoshop has changed it a lot. I don't know what colour the
clouds were originally but I have removed a lot of yellow from them:


Now to your Photomatix test. Did you use the manual deghosting for the water?
If so, I don't know how you got the chess board effect. If you manually select
an area for deghosting, Photomatix only uses one image for that part of the output.
Not only do you have the chess board but you also have the Photomatix fuzz
or glow everywhere except the sky. This may give an "artistic effect" but it causes
loss of clarity and definition. I have stopped using it for that reason. But some
folk have success with it. Have a look at tescoblue's Yesterday Walk/

Photoshop itself is not rated highly on this board but I must say that your Photoshop
test is one of the best I have ever seen.

It is always difficult to assess comparisons such as the one you have done as,
inevitably, the person doing the experimentation usually has unequal experience
with the softwares being tested. Incidentally, this bracketed set of Pier supports
would make a very good challenge!

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Martin, thanks for your responses.

For the PM ghosting, I never use the manual option. This is probably the next learning step for me that I will have to take.

As for the Photoshop image above, let me be clear - this is not an HDR produced by Photoshop. I blended the best parts of the PM and Nik images using Photoshop (and cloned out some stuff in the bottom, right-hand corner - did you notice that? ).

I'm not giving up on Nik's HDR product (I bought the upgrade after all), but it is certainly not my go-to HDR application yet.

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Martin, thanks for your responses.

For the PM ghosting, I never use the manual option. This is probably the next learning step for me that I will have to take.
It's very easy.

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As for the Photoshop image above, let me be clear - this is not an HDR produced by Photoshop. I blended the best parts of the PM and Nik images using Photoshop (and cloned out some stuff in the bottom, right-hand corner - did you notice that? ).
I realise that now.

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I'm not giving up on Nik's HDR product (I bought the upgrade after all), but it is certainly not my go-to HDR application yet.
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Am glad to hear it!

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Hi Steve.

I do struggle with tests like these as the variables are too many for me to make an assessment. I find it's just best to work with what you like and brings you the results. I am a big photomatix fan too, but I do like nik pro 2 as well. I tend to use photomatix more at this point in time and find myself experimenting with pro 2 at the moment to get used to it. I will be giving pro 2 a proper run out soon though.
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This is a great discussion! I write software reviews for my clubs magazine (PSA Journal) and have tested a number of products inlcuding Oleneo, SNS, HDR Expose and Machinery. I have used Photomatix for several years but have struggled with sharpness and bit of blooming of colors. But it does have batch processing and the best ghost reduction particularly in manual mode. I agree, the interface of CS5/6 is not good and not easy to use. I agree HDR Efex, it had great potential when it arrived utilizing their Upoint technology, but the images had a very strange feel to them and the cloud/skies were a mess. I really like the sharpness and natural look of SNS and Oleneo, to bad I have run them under Fusion because they slow a bit. I got a new PC for work and I am going to play with SNS a bit more because I think it has great potential to be one of the best programs.

I think each photographer cannot survive with one program, each have their advantages and differences.

Just one persons opinion....


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