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Old 06-03-2007   #1 (permalink)
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Default Kodak color vs Panny color - E1/410

I found this interesting- someone posted that the e-410 color doesn't really differ all that much from the E-1. What I like the most is that he backed it up with photos. I wonder though how they would look near 100% as the E-1 has this nice texture.. but I think the others do too, though perhaps with the new zero noise redux a tad different.

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I started a new blog, to try and put together a collection of people here in Japan, at both work and at play. I have used both the E410 and the E1, and don't really see a great deal of color difference. Please take a look, but be a little patient, as it may take a short time to load.

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Default Re: Kodak color vs Panny color - E1/410

For what it's worth I've always thought Panasonic's range of compacts have the most visually appealing colour, though like the Kodak sensor, somewhat noisy. Perhaps manufacturing a sensor with low noise and impressive colour fidelity isn't currently an option.
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Default Re: Kodak color vs Panny color - E1/410

i agree
i have an E300 and a Panasonic LC1
the 300 has quite a red bias in jpg, in Australia thats not always good
the LC1 produces very nice green renders for foliage that i quite like

this is from my LC-1, not bad for a P&S
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Default Re: Kodak color vs Panny color - E1/410

Can't fault the colour rendition in that pic - the greens and blues are spot on. I very nearly bought a FZ-30, but saw the light when I saw the E-300 discounted for less!

I find getting the exposure and WB right is very helpful on the E-300 as regards to the red (magenta?) bias. The only time I shoot jpeg is when I use flash as it gets it all correct, everything else goes to RAW.
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Default Re: Kodak color vs Panny color - E1/410

All I can recall is that the only non-Kodak Oly cam I had was the E-330 and I thought it didn't have the same colour range as the E-1. The E-400 is fairly similar to the E-1, and has an obvious bonus in detail - really does stand out.

I have nothing against the MOS type sensors (I use a Canon 5D and it's great), but I do see something in the E-1 (and slightly less so in the E-400) that does stand out compared to the E-330 or the 5D for that matter. A lot of it may just be the RAW processing engine, and I'm not going to analyse it too deeply, but it does exist in my eyes.

I agree with Riley about the red bias - it's quite obvious in the E-1. It also does brilliantly blue skies too though so it's not like a permanent red shift across the image. Whatever it is, Olympus should bottle it up as a style and make it available in any cam they release in the future. For portraits especially it's as good as I've ever seen.
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red bias doesnt help e sometimes !
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Default Re: Kodak color vs Panny color - E1/410

There's no denying the sharpness and detail from that lens! It does have a slight magenta bias though, perhaps from the AutoWB?
I took the liberty of running it through ColorWasher to remove the cast, though I think any improvement is arguable:
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Default Re: Kodak color vs Panny color - E1/410

hmm yes
i use AWB all the time, looks like maybe i shouldnt
this may be an extreme case as the sun was just out of shot to the right
and from memory around 4.30pm so its late in the day and the sun is low


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