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A quick process through babelfish:

E-410
Characteristics:
• Light and extreme it compacts, with function of Previsualización in screen
• New Sensor Live MOS of 10 megapíxeles
• New motor of image processing
• USB of high speed 2.0
• Screen LCD HyperCrystal of 2.5 ” / 6.4 cm
• Filter of Ultrasonic waveses for protection anti-dust
• Dual groove for memory cards (xD-Picture Card and CompactFlash)
• 32 ways of firing (5 of exhibition, 7 creative and 20 ways of scene)
• Integrated retractable flash (NG 10)
• 3fps with up to 7 images in way RAW
• Balance of targets of a touch
• Function of blockade high frequency
• Function of Previsualización of depth of field
• Digital measurement ESP of 49 zones
• Bracketd function of of exhibition
• Advanced nascent and usuary screen of information for
• Screen of information of reproduction detailed with histogram
• Cradle in the standard Four Thirds
• It has optional watertight housing (PT-E03) submersible up to 40 meters
• Dimensions: 129,5 xs 91 xs 53 mm
• Weight: 380 gr..



E-510
Characteristics:
• Previsualización of image in screen
• Integrated stabilizer of image
• Sensor Live MOS of 10 megapíxeles
• New motor of image processing
• USB of high speed 2.0
• Screen LCD HyperCrystal of 2.5 ” / 6.4 cm
• Filter of Ultrasonic waveses for protection anti-dust
• 28 ways of firing (5 of exhibition, 5 creative and 18 ways of scene)
• Integrated retractable flash (NG 10)
• 3fps with up to 7 images in way RAW
• Function of blockade high frequency
• Function of Previsualización of depth of field
• Bracketd function of (Exhibition, Balance of targets, Approach)
• Screen of information of reproduction detailed with histogram
• Cradle in the standard Four Thirds, which causes that he is compatible with almost all
range of accessories of E-System
• Dimensions: 136 xs 91.5 xs 56 mm
• Weight: 460 gr..

So it seems the key difference is that the E-510 has in-body IS (good!). I'm really aching to see what the E-x specs look like .
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Sorry I didn't translate this myself, as my first language is < drum roll > Spanish.

I wish they had a bigger buffer and 4 fps or more than that, weather resistance, but they look pretty good- though we'll see what prices.

I think it's a given at this point the E-3 will have inbody IS. (It will also have live view.. umm just a hunch ).

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PS: The other key difference in e-410 vs e-510, is, obviously, the size

I think the new e-510 is lighter than the e-500? Is this right?
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I'm sort of a bit underwhelmed so far. They look nice enough I guess. Will the LV screen articulate? Bit of a bummer if it doesn't (fun reading the Canon 1d mk3 threads - people are wondering about the point of LV if the screen doesn't tilt or you can't still use all the AF features - which the E-330 does wonderfully).


IS will be interesting - nice to think that all my lenses are suddenly IS enabled . Will wait to see it in practice before commenting further.

Hopefully more info in a few days at PMA on the E-1 replacement...
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E510 looks photoshopped - "1" in 510 is wrong, grip doesn't seem to meet camera and remote sensor appears to be off E1.

OTOH the source appears genuine enough.

Specs are exactly as predicted (which is suspicious in itself) and if that is what they ship I will be delighted. Both should be big sellers.

As an actual E330 user, I know that screen articulation is not critical.
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At this point in time, I think the rumors don't matter, and the "I know" or "leaked info" sites don't matter.

What matters is everybody has been thinking for months what the specs are, and in a few days, if Olympus doesn't deliver on those rumors, then everybody is gonna be quite mad.

To me, I am more concerned with pricing and availability worldwide. If all three models (assuming three) are available worldwide, are the 410 and 510 gonna be priced the same or too close together, with the big gun costing 1,000's more?

If so, I think that spells trouble...
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As an actual E330 user, I know that screen articulation is not critical.
Just shows you that they'll never please all the people all the time. As an (ex) E-330 user the most useful thing was to be able to tilt the LCD to get shots I couldn't have got without a lot of effort using either OVF or a fixed LCD.
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To me, I am more concerned with pricing and availability worldwide. If all three models (assuming three) are available worldwide, are the 410 and 510 gonna be priced the same or too close together, with the big gun costing 1,000's more?

If so, I think that spells trouble...
Don't see why. Two consumer level camera, sharing most of the same parts, one very light, cut down, and easy to use, the other with IS and full controls. Should give them two models for negligible cost. And an UberCam fr credibility, in the form of the E3.

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I want the E-x to be very very expensive. If it isn't then they haven't made the cam I was hoping they'd make. The E-410/E-510 look good enough if those shots are real, but they're not E-1 material. I hope Oly don't dumb down too much and really push the boat out on their flagship. They've had enough time to get it right...
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If there is a really wide difference in the price of the bottom two, and the ridiculously priced flagship that you want Paul, then to me, Olympus is dead. If I was sitting in the middle of some 3-tiered lineup, and I could buy three more of the same body I had, or one of the bad boys, I'd like three more bodies please. I'd look more professional with 4 bodies around my next than one big camera body.

I think Canon knows what Olympus is doing with the flagship, and the MkIII is a pre-strike offensive to squash it before it is released, or to force Olympus to do something different...like drop the price to a critical success-fail level.

I think the flagship specs will be similar to the MkIII's. I also think Oly has known the specs long before the MkIII was announced. I think their price was set to. I think the new Canon is aimed to defeat it on both counts, and it will.

The new Oly may become the "cult-following" camera the E-1 is, and that is all you want it to be, right Paul?
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Well, ok - when I say very very expensive I'm thinking Canon 5D class. The cost of the 1ds series is ridiculous and Olympus would be insane to compete at that level. Looking at current pricing (UK) the current E-400 is around £500, which is entry level pricing. The 5D is around £1500 - this is where I see Olympus pitching the E-1 replacement - that's around $3000 but it'll more likely be $2500 in the US due to UK price inflation.

Compared to the E-400 price the E-x would be 3 times as expensive, and that would fit in with my idea of a 'pro' body that is at least as good as the E-1.

The Canon MKIII is currently on pre-order for just under £3000 (around $5999) in the UK - if the Olympus is near that mark then yes Olympus would be dead in the water.
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The new Oly may become the "cult-following" camera the E-1 is, and that is all you want it to be, right Paul?
Hey - if it's available in fire sale in a year or so for a few hundred quid then I'm all for cults .
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I aggree with you Paul, also was hoping for a articulating screen, like the E330 which was teriffic for shots from 'frogs-eye-view'
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So the E330 is dead - as it seems - still worth a buy if one could get it cheap, or wait for the "new technology" without the articulating screen? ...
Anyway, for Oly I think the new 'kids' look very nice and tempting - in a short time we know more of them and for sure live view and Oly is here to stay
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The E-330 is old, but that does NOT mean it stinks. If it fits your needs, then you needs it. Lots of folks still using the awesome E-1. Why? Not because it is old and not worth buying. because it is a great tool that works for them.
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