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Would you adam and eve it, the hard drive that was used specifically for photos backup has stopped being recognised by bios, when connected using the data and power cables, Windows stops loading about a second into the boot up process.

Exhausted all means of swapping power/data cables, since this is a SATA drive, it was easy. But never solved the problem of it not being recognised. I had to order the same hard drive from ebay.

One bad residing memory of ordering from ebay, is that one of them was a fraudently b*****d, who said that I had paid for the "page". Though, hopefully ebay has since realised that it was going on.

The reason why, I have order the same hard drive from ebay......is to extract the logical board from it, I just so hope it works, otherwise, I will have to pay £97-£150 for a data recovery. And this on the fact that I was shortly going to back up the photos, grrrrrrr.....gets you at an inopportune moment

Anyone had a similar situation?


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you may want to try spin right on the disc, it can take a long time (we've had one running for a couple weeks, but it works well on getting the data back. Might be something to try before switching the boards.


If bios doesn't see it I can't promise it will work, but may be a thought.
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you may want to try spin right on the disc, it can take a long time (we've had one running for a couple weeks, but it works well on getting the data back. Might be something to try before switching the boards.

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If bios doesn't see it I can't promise it will work, but may be a thought.

The point is, that if I connect up the data and power cables, Windows won't work but will give it a go if it doesn't work
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Connect that HD to a Mac...?

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It doesn't need to. you set your bios to boot from either cd of thumbdrive depending on what you have spin rite on. Cd is easier because not all thumbdrives will boot and not all pcs will boot a thumb drive.

We have it running on a spare older tower from a cd. When we started it wouldn't boot at all, paused a few days ago and got it to boot to windows but it won't stay up long enough to retrieve the data so back to spinning, it was at 47% when we paused it.
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Was it a Western Digital...SportsShooter.com - Western Digital 400gig Hard Drive Failure - HELP! ?
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It doesn't need to. you set your bios to boot from either cd of thumbdrive depending on what you have spin rite on. Cd is easier because not all thumbdrives will boot and not all pcs will boot a thumb drive.

We have it running on a spare older tower from a cd. When we started it wouldn't boot at all, paused a few days ago and got it to boot to windows but it won't stay up long enough to retrieve the data so back to spinning, it was at 47% when we paused it.
Well, I will give that a try myself, if all fails with the logical board or I might give it a try, just before I replace the logical board


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Not a WD, now you are getting me worried, it seems like that I can only trust now Samsung for my huge data storage, lol, it is a Maxtor DiamondMax 22, I have tried the firmware update scenario as well
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Not a WD, now you are getting me worried, it seems like that I can only trust now Samsung for my huge data storage, lol, it is a Maxtor DiamondMax 22, I have tried the firmware update scenario as well
I've used WD for years without problem. I have two now, a 1 TB internal and a 1 TB external for backup that are both dedicated to photos and some other items that I want to backup regularly.
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I've used WD for years without problem. I have two now, a 1 TB internal and a 1 TB external for backup that are both dedicated to photos and some other items that I want to backup regularly.

Haha, don't do that, I love WD, now that Hitachi/IBM and Maxtor are scrubbed off my list of trusted hard disks manufacturers

Thankfully, the Hitacchi failed years before I got the Canon 400d, phew!!!!! But Maxtor was a turn up for the book, lol
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What's wrong with Hitachi? That's what my system drive is!
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What's wrong with Hitachi? That's what my system drive is!
Just today my 500Gb Hitachi drive failed Everything is backed up though (except my Lightroom catalogue)

This is my second Hitchi drive failure and I'll not buy another! Just ordered a seagate 7200.12 1Tb drive as a replacement.

As it was an OEM drive Hitachi say it's not covered by warranty either!!

All drives are prone to failure and in fact WILL fail at some point. Backups are critically important and I'm happy I've not lost too much.
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What's wrong with Hitachi? That's what my system drive is!
Haven't you heard what the nickname "Deathstar" means? Try googling it
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Just today my 500Gb Hitachi drive failed Everything is backed up though (except my Lightroom catalogue)

This is my second Hitchi drive failure and I'll not buy another! Just ordered a seagate 7200.12 1Tb drive as a replacement.

As it was an OEM drive Hitachi say it's not covered by warranty either!!

Oh my, you love living dangerously, haha
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Anyone had a similar situation?
Unfortunately, yes. And it didn't end well. That is, the data was never recovered.

Now I have backups of backups.
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Oh my, you love living dangerously, haha
Not really

I have the followg drives already installed (all Gb)

Internal
300Gb
200Gb
250Gb

Extermal
1000
500
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The 500 internal that went was backed up with the 500 external but I screwed up by not backing up my Lr catalogue with 30000 images in it!!! I only had 10000 in my backup catalogue. Still the images are there and I can reedit thise that need done.

1Tb of data goes quick when you shoot a lot of images!
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I have 2 drives have that failure, too bad, i feel it can be fixed but as long all solutions here on websites are in English and really i can't understand all English so maybe some steps i can't understand and though i can't follow or go further more.
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That's a problem, Tareq, as our Arabic isn't so hot either and not likely to improve in the short term...
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Not really

I have the followg drives already installed (all Gb)

Internal
300Gb
200Gb
250Gb

Extermal
1000
500
500
400
200
200

The 500 internal that went was backed up with the 500 external but I screwed up by not backing up my Lr catalogue with 30000 images in it!!! I only had 10000 in my backup catalogue. Still the images are there and I can reedit thise that need done.

1Tb of data goes quick when you shoot a lot of images!
Really also depends on the camera image size, I doubt if I would fill that in a year's worth of shooting on my Canon 400d

Good news, is that I have an exact replacement drive with exact firmware coming shortly, just so hope it is the logical board though
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you may want to try spin right on the disc, it can take a long time (we've had one running for a couple weeks, but it works well on getting the data back. Might be something to try before switching the boards.

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If bios doesn't see it I can't promise it will work, but may be a thought.

I have tried this, as I guessed, since it isn't being recognised by the BIOS, neither will Spinrite recognise it
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Really also depends on the camera image size, I doubt if I would fill that in a year's worth of shooting on my Canon 400d

Good news, is that I have an exact replacement drive with exact firmware coming shortly, just so hope it is the logical board though
I agree, i hardly i can fill my one external HDD 500GB with photos only, i have many cameras that vary in mp, even with some TIFF full size still there are space in my drive, but i was smart enough that i didn't buy one 500GB HDD, i bought 2, and to be honest, both of the HDD have photos at about 20-30% of the whole size, and the rest is just mix of applic., songs, movies, games,....etc.


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