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Old 06-04-2009   #1
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Default 50 Greatest Computer Workstation (PC/Mac) Setups

...of which a grand total of 2 are PCs...

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Very interesting. People can be very creative in how they configure their workspace. My own space is dictated by space constraints than my own desires.
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...of which a grand total of 2 are PCs...
I guess that's because PC users spend more time being productive their machines, rather than decorating with them
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I guess that's because PC users spend more time being productive their machines, rather than decorating with them
That must be after the anti-virus scan, the malware check, the resetting of the registries, the tweaking of the dll's, and the system reboot then.
Until the next BSOD...
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That must be after the anti-virus scan, the malware check, the resetting of the registries, the tweaking of the dll's, and the system reboot then.
Until the next BSOD...
I have real time anti-virus and the rest are not an issue.
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That must be after the anti-virus scan, the malware check, the resetting of the registries, the tweaking of the dll's, and the system reboot then.
Until the next BSOD...
I'll bite. My last job I was at (for 6 years) was a 50/50 Mac/PC shop. The Macs crashed faaaaar more often than any of the PC's. Usually with that lovely high pitched beep that annoys everyone in the office. Not that any machine was complely trouble free, but Macs aren't any more reliable than PC's, and have never really been.

Also I've had one virus in 11 years, and that was 9 years ago and I rarely run a virus scanner. If you keep your machine up to date (and Mac's have plenty of software updates themselves) and avoid shady sites, you won't have many problems on a PC.

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Maybe I am boring in this regards, but the computer is a tool. I dont feel the need to be creative with my computer designs, as I am creative in other ways. (or at least try to be)
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I grant you that System 7 bombed a lot and it had that annoying sound and graphic that everyone else seemed to enjoy.

OS X has not crashed on me. Then again, Windows XP was stable also. Not a fan of Vista.
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Sheesh... will the MAC/PC wars never end?

The fact is they both crash, need updates, have hardware issues, etc. The SINGLE reason there are fewer MAC malware threats is due to their unpopularity. If everyone started buying them and they gained equal market share then they would have just as many bad little worms as PC's.

Oh, and what processors are the new MACs running? Umm.. oh ye-e-ah... X86 (not ex 86). Heh, heh...
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The fact is they both crash,
Yeah, my Macs on average once every 6 months. And your PCs?

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Sure, but Macs usually get 'm within a few weeks. And your PCs...?

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Rarely, because Mac hard- and software are designed and developed together, in conjunction, whereas Windows and the hardware it is run on, are not! And it shows.

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The SINGLE reason there are fewer MAC malware threats is due to their unpopularity. If everyone started buying them and they gained equal market share then they would have just as many bad little worms as PC's.
No, the single reason there are fewer Mac malware threats is due to the robustness of its Unix operating system, whereas Windows is a patchwork that leaks like a sieve, and still builds on the basically flawed MS-DOS, so that, unsurprising, any half-wit programmer can screw it up. And does. There are now well over 120,000 known Windows viruses in the wild vs. NO known viruses for OSX!

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Oh, and what processors are the new MACs running? Umm.. oh ye-e-ah... X86 (not ex 86). Heh, heh...
Thanks! You just proved that it's not so much the hardware, but the operating system and software that makes the difference! LOL!
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ahh...the endless pc/mac wars .... like ford/chevy .... canon/nikon .... democrat/republican ... how boring.
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There is nothing wrong with OSX or Windows, but you have a few misconceptions here.

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Yeah, my Macs on average once every 6 months. And your PCs?
6 months is probably average for me too, in general. I also probably only bother to shut down my computer about once a month or so, if that. Our Windows servers are rebooted probably once, maybe twice a year.

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Sure, but Macs usually get 'm within a few weeks. And your PCs...?
I've seen updates come out in as little in a week. They've really slowed down though. I think the last update I installed was SP2 about 3 weeks ago. Before that I can't remember.
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Rarely, because Mac hard- and software are designed and developed together, in conjunction, whereas Windows and the hardware it is run on, are not! And it shows.
Mac's run on the exact same hardware as a PC, I'm not sure what your point is. There's a lot more peripherals and upgrades available for PCs, and if poorly made can cause problems. But I wouldn't call a lack of additional hardware a plus for Macs.

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No, the single reason there are fewer Mac malware threats is due to the robustness of its Unix operating system, whereas Windows is a patchwork that leaks like a sieve, and still builds on the basically flawed MS-DOS, so that, unsurprising, any half-wit programmer can screw it up. And does. There are now well over 120,000 known Windows viruses in the wild vs. NO known viruses for OSX!
You have no idea what you are talking about. Windows NT, 2000, XP, Vista, Server 2003, Server 2008 and 7 are all built on the NT kernal which was completely independent of MS-DOS. You're information it out of date... by a decade.

And actually there is a trojan called "OSX.Trojan.iServices.A" that infected 20,000 Macs via a pirated version of iWorks 09. Which is pretty much how most PC's get infected as well. Honestly with UAC in Vista/Windows 7, you pretty much have to try to get a virius on purpose.

If OSX ever gained significant market share (it might one day) I guanantee you'd see an explosion of exploits and viruses. Not because it sucks, but because it's just not pounded and beat on every day like Windows is. Vista/7 is pretty damn secure, not because of magic or wishful thinking, but because every hacker in the world has tried to break into Windows at some point. Microsoft as what-not-to-do down to a science.

Honestly, Windows hasn't been that vulnerable since the early days of XP. I have never regularly run Antivirus software (other than occasional scan with a free one) and haven't had a virus since Windows 98, at least 9 years ago.

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Thanks! You just proved that it's not so much the hardware, but the operating system and software that makes the difference! LOL!
The hardware is universal. Most important software exists on both platforms (and sometimes linux!). The point of an OS is to host an application. Since Photoshop, Lightroom, even Safari, etc run virtually identically either way it pretty much makes your OS choice a matter of opinion.

The problem isn't OSX or Windows, it's fanboys, like you, on either side who think their platform is universally superior. I can point out the flaws in your reasoning all day, but you'll believe what you want to believe, whether it's true (it isn't) or not.
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Honestly, Windows hasn't been that vulnerable since the early days of XP. I have never regularly run Antivirus software (other than occasional scan with a free one) and haven't had a virus since Windows 98, at least 9 years ago.
Well, what a coincidence, cadmium: just yesterday I caught a Win32.TrojanSpyBanker sneaking onto my knight-in-shining-armor Win7 virtual machine that never cried "wolf!" when it mattered! So much for state-of-the-art OS protection! (I kicked the Trojan in the nuts, of course)

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Well, what a coincidence, cadmium: just yesterday I caught a Win32.TrojanSpyBanker sneaking onto my knight-in-shining-armor Win7 virtual machine that never cried "wolf!" when it mattered! So much for state-of-the-art OS protection! (I kicked the Trojan in the nuts, of course)

LOL!
My question is, what were you installing? Trojan require host software, usually warez, to get on your machine. You can't blame windows when you agree to install infected software.
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My question is, what were you installing? Trojan require host software, usually warez, to get on your machine. You can't blame windows when you agree to install infected software.
I can blame Windows because I never "agreed to install infected software". No warez on my Win7. Just IE, FF, Safari, Picasa, Avast, Ad-Aware, and Quicktime Player. Nothing else!
And it was Avast that caught that Trojan. NOT WINDOWS! So Windows 7 let that Trojan in as if it were regular software...!
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I can blame Windows because I never "agreed to install infected software". No warez on my Win7. Just IE, FF, Safari, Picasa, Avast, Ad-Aware, and Quicktime Player. Nothing else!
And it was Avast that caught that Trojan. NOT WINDOWS! So Windows 7 let that Trojan in as if it were regular software...!
The Quicktime player or Quicktime Pro? Because the only reference I see to Win32.TrojanSpyBanker Vista or Windows 7 showing up on vista is in a keygen for Quicktime Pro.

Trojans don't come out of thin air, they don't just happen to show up, even in Windows., they have to be installed in some fashion, knowingly or unknowingly (usually the latter).

If you happen to be using warez/cracks, or even software from an untrustworth source and get something nasty, don't blame it on the OS. As with the iWorks warez on OSX, trojans can happen on any system, not just Windows.
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No lo contendere. But that's not the point.
The point is that Windows, in all its mass-market iterations since 1985, always was de facto the most malware vulnerable OS on the planet. By a streetlength.
Whatever the reason(s).

And, from my rl experience, Win7 is a worthy successor in that tradition...
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No lo contendere. But that's not the point.
The point is that Windows, in all its mass-market iterations since 1985, always was de facto the most malware vulnerable OS on the planet. By a streetlength.
Whatever the reason(s).

And, from my rl experience, Win7 is a worthy successor in that tradition...
I think you're viewpoint is somewhat skewed, but OK.


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