Help!! - PhotoCamel

kenwae · 02-26-2009

Ok, here's the situation. I burn a CD of jpegs - sometimes close to a hundred of them, high resolution for printing. It can take up a lot of the CD space, but not all of it. I'm using the win xp in house burn/copy feature from a the folder on the desktop to a CD-R. No problems. I then use the "make compatible" feature. No problems. I test it out on another win xp machine AND a Mac...no problems. But, when it goes into some Win Vista machine, the jpeg folder is empty, but the properties shows couple hundred megabytes of stuff, which of course are the jpegs. I've done some googling and have found no real understanding or fix...At this point, I'm thinking it's not so much Win Vista, but the media player, in some cases a DVD-RW which is not showing the CD-R jpegs....??

Any thoughts on this? Any suggestions or pointers? It would be nice to know that the burned images on a CD-R could play on just about any modern computer. I figured, if it plays on a Mac and an Windows, it's compatabile for 99% of users...but, maybe not..maybe there are other concerns to work around....Anyway, your input is appreciated. Thanks -Ken

00silvergt · 02-26-2009

DVD-RW you say? Do you mean the media or the Drive is a DVD-RW? RW's are sometimes iffy, in that they may use a compression that only the host machine will see. But seeing as you used the in-house burning software, which will not burn to a DVD-RW, I'm thinking it may just have been a bad burn? Try it on an XP machine and see if it comes up? Try it on a Mac and/or another Vista box and see if it shows up, if not then you have a bad burn. If it shows up, it maybe the DVD drive in the vista machine. Also, try F5 to refresh the view. I hope that helps.

kenwae · 02-27-2009

Thanks for the input. The drive is a DVD-RW, but I think it's also a multi drive. It worked fine on a standard win xp, and a mac...so, I don't think it was a bad burn; I think it's something about the DVD drive in vista, at least some of them, not recognizing something in the CD. A friend recommended cdburnxp, a free cd burning program, rather than the in house win copy/burn process and i'll probably give that a try.

Dirk · 03-05-2009

that often is the case , perhaps that the visdta drive needs a new firmware or have you checked what it can read?

just go to Vista key > Settings > System > Device tab > dvd drive : name (brand) and type > write that in a piece of paper than google it ..

kenwae · 03-05-2009

Thanks for the input everyone; it appears that the simple burn program (really just a copy program) inbuilt in win xp,even using the make compatible when finished, isn't sufficient. So, downloading the free cdburnxp program did the job. Now the disks can be read in Vista.

00silvergt · 03-05-2009

I had something similar just happen to me, I was giving a friend who was backing me up for a shoot, his pics on a DVD. I used Nero to burn the DVD on a DVD+R with the archival layer on the label side. He took it home and the disc was empty. He runs Vista at home. So then I did a new burn with Nero on the same media and this time it worked. Computers are funny, aren't they?

tonyrabina · 03-05-2009

May I recommend Nero?
I thinks it is the best software you can get for burning all kinds of stuff

00silvergt · 03-06-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyrabina

May I recommend Nero?
I thinks it is the best software you can get for burning all kinds of stuff

Um, read above, your post.

02-26-2009	#1 (permalink)
kenwae Bactrian Location: Maui, Hawaii Posts: 1,916 CamelKarma: 7182 Editing OK?: Ask first Gallery \| Blog	Help!! Ok, here's the situation. I burn a CD of jpegs - sometimes close to a hundred of them, high resolution for printing. It can take up a lot of the CD space, but not all of it. I'm using the win xp in house burn/copy feature from a the folder on the desktop to a CD-R. No problems. I then use the "make compatible" feature. No problems. I test it out on another win xp machine AND a Mac...no problems. But, when it goes into some Win Vista machine, the jpeg folder is empty, but the properties shows couple hundred megabytes of stuff, which of course are the jpegs. I've done some googling and have found no real understanding or fix...At this point, I'm thinking it's not so much Win Vista, but the media player, in some cases a DVD-RW which is not showing the CD-R jpegs....?? Any thoughts on this? Any suggestions or pointers? It would be nice to know that the burned images on a CD-R could play on just about any modern computer. I figured, if it plays on a Mac and an Windows, it's compatabile for 99% of users...but, maybe not..maybe there are other concerns to work around....Anyway, your input is appreciated. Thanks -Ken __________________ Members don't see ads in threads. Register your free account today and become a member on PhotoCamel - Your Friendly Photo Forum, gaining access to posting privileges, contests, free plug-ins and other downloads, unlimited online storage for your photographs, reviews, free marketplace listings, and much more.
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02-26-2009	#2 (permalink)
00silvergt F1 Camel Location: Fairfield, CA Posts: 4,855 CamelKarma: 6145 Editing OK?: Yes Gallery \| Blog	Re: Help!! DVD-RW you say? Do you mean the media or the Drive is a DVD-RW? RW's are sometimes iffy, in that they may use a compression that only the host machine will see. But seeing as you used the in-house burning software, which will not burn to a DVD-RW, I'm thinking it may just have been a bad burn? Try it on an XP machine and see if it comes up? Try it on a Mac and/or another Vista box and see if it shows up, if not then you have a bad burn. If it shows up, it maybe the DVD drive in the vista machine. Also, try F5 to refresh the view. I hope that helps.
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02-27-2009	#3 (permalink)
kenwae Bactrian Location: Maui, Hawaii Posts: 1,916 CamelKarma: 7182 Editing OK?: Ask first Gallery \| Blog	Re: Help!! Thanks for the input. The drive is a DVD-RW, but I think it's also a multi drive. It worked fine on a standard win xp, and a mac...so, I don't think it was a bad burn; I think it's something about the DVD drive in vista, at least some of them, not recognizing something in the CD. A friend recommended cdburnxp, a free cd burning program, rather than the in house win copy/burn process and i'll probably give that a try.
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03-05-2009	#4 (permalink)
Dirk Bactrian Location: the netherlands , Gelderland Posts: 1,846 CamelKarma: 875 Editing OK?: Yes Gallery \| Blog	Re: Help!! that often is the case , perhaps that the visdta drive needs a new firmware or have you checked what it can read? just go to Vista key > Settings > System > Device tab > dvd drive : name (brand) and type > write that in a piece of paper than google it ..
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03-05-2009	#5 (permalink)
kenwae Bactrian Location: Maui, Hawaii Posts: 1,916 CamelKarma: 7182 Editing OK?: Ask first Gallery \| Blog	Re: Help!! Thanks for the input everyone; it appears that the simple burn program (really just a copy program) inbuilt in win xp,even using the make compatible when finished, isn't sufficient. So, downloading the free cdburnxp program did the job. Now the disks can be read in Vista.
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03-05-2009	#6 (permalink)
00silvergt F1 Camel Location: Fairfield, CA Posts: 4,855 CamelKarma: 6145 Editing OK?: Yes Gallery \| Blog	Re: Help!! I had something similar just happen to me, I was giving a friend who was backing me up for a shoot, his pics on a DVD. I used Nero to burn the DVD on a DVD+R with the archival layer on the label side. He took it home and the disc was empty. He runs Vista at home. So then I did a new burn with Nero on the same media and this time it worked. Computers are funny, aren't they?
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03-05-2009	#7 (permalink)
tonyrabina Llama Location: Burgess Hill, West Sussex, UK Posts: 537 CamelKarma: 872 Editing OK?: Yes Gallery \| Blog	Re: Help!! May I recommend Nero? I thinks it is the best software you can get for burning all kinds of stuff
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