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Old 06-19-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Default I HATE VISTA AND BRIDGE, I need help

Cut to the chase, this is my problem.

I cannot do any file maintenance activities to selected files.

I have a folder "X" in a HDD. Within X, I ave 4 subfolder X1, X2, X3 and X4. These subfolders were created over a period of 18 months. X, X1, X2 and X3 were copied from a smaller HDD onto the current one. X4 was created directly on the current HDD.

I am unable to do the following in X1, X2 and X3 - delete, move files (to any other folder with either drag and drop or the cut command), labeling, rating, rename (using F2 function key or batch rename), append or replace metadata, basically any file operations.

This applies to all files, raw, tiff, jpeg.

These problems applies to only X1-X3, NOT X4.

The error messages for move is " The operation cannot be completed because you do not have sufficient permission".
The error message for rename is "This file cannot be renamed to to "xxx" because you do not have sufficient permission or it is in use". The file is definately not in use.
The rest, delete, change label or rating, simply nothing happened.

Meanwhile, I can do all the renaming, deleting, moving etc in explorer without problems.

I checked Vista, I have full admin rights as far as I can tell.

Any ideas? Changing to Mac or XP is NOT an option at this point.

I know you can get 3rd party software to do this. I have first party software, explorer to do this, just I like to be able to do it in Bridge.

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Old 06-19-2008   #2 (permalink)
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1. Turn off User Account Control if it's not off already. Open up Control Panel and, in the search bar, type 'UAC'. Click on the 'Turn User Account Control (UAC) on or off' and follow the prompts. This typically requires a reboot.

That may fix your problem by itself. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

If it doesn't, post again. The next few steps require more and I don't have Vista in front of me right now.
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I like my new computer with Vista...but I can understand your
frustration.

Have you tried right-clicking the affected folder in Windows Explorer
and then opening Properties and then making sure that all Users and Group security clearance settings are as you want them?
You may need to edit the permissions of one or all in the list.
(Check each one. In my case there are 4 users/groups)

Here is what I am referring to:
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Default Re: I HATE VISTA AND BRIDGE, I need help

Thanks for the prompt reply. Much appreciated.

Nikimoto, yes, I am supposed to have admin rights all set up correctly and I checked again, I have all the rights.

Brian, tried your method, it worked for the folders in question. Will continue to work for a few days, if all works, this is a great piece of info for those who are stucked with Vista.

Nikimoto, need your help to appreciate and like Vista. Only if ...
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Default Re: I HATE VISTA AND BRIDGE, I need help

DANG IT! I'm not crazy, well maybe I am, but this is the same thing that has happened to me eversince I got this vista machine. INSUFFICIENT AUTHORITY, crap I am the adminstrator. It lets you put things into files and then eventually locks the files on you, sometimes it hides what you put into the files (Trust me, this will scare the bejezzus out of you) If you're lucky a search will lead you to where it hid the files and maybe even let you access them again.
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After the WinXP holes shown with having the active user as a local administrator, Microsoft had to find a way to approach security without changing too much. So instead of making everyone do it the right way (which, in their defense, they've been trying to push for years), they added another layer of security that simply put a wall up in front of the local admin users: User Account Control (UAC).

What UAC does is control how files are accessed and authenticated from within Windows. In a normal XP environment, if my userid, Brian, opens an application, that app does all of its file management activities behind the scenes with my userid as its authenticator. With UAC, however, the OS knows the difference between my own personal actions and an application's actions. This protects the file system from rogue apps like bots, trojans, etc..

While my user has permissions to access the files, the app's userid doesn't. Hence the message that pops up.

Turning off UAC disables that extra wall. It also opens you up a bit to the things that UAC tries to block so consider that in your overall security scheme. Turning off UAC is the first thing I do to my own personal Vista machines...but I'm firewalled, running extensive AV, and very aware of what's happening on my machines.
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After the WinXP holes shown with having the active user as a local administrator, Microsoft had to find a way to approach security without changing too much. So instead of making everyone do it the right way (which, in their defense, they've been trying to push for years), they added another layer of security that simply put a wall up in front of the local admin users: User Account Control (UAC).

What UAC does is control how files are accessed and authenticated from within Windows. In a normal XP environment, if my userid, Brian, opens an application, that app does all of its file management activities behind the scenes with my userid as its authenticator. With UAC, however, the OS knows the difference between my own personal actions and an application's actions. This protects the file system from rogue apps like bots, trojans, etc..

While my user has permissions to access the files, the app's userid doesn't. Hence the message that pops up.

Turning off UAC disables that extra wall. It also opens you up a bit to the things that UAC tries to block so consider that in your overall security scheme. Turning off UAC is the first thing I do to my own personal Vista machines...but I'm firewalled, running extensive AV, and very aware of what's happening on my machines.
Brian,

Thank you for the plain language explanation. That answers questions I had about access and permissions. I've not had many issues with Vista. It was loaded on the machine from the start. I've managed to make it behave like I need it too with the exception of some of those very same permissions. Good Job! Thanks again.
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You guys with Vista issues need to Google "vista true admin". It can save you a lot of heartache.

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