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Old 07-26-2005   #1 (permalink)
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Default Impressions of Canon 10-22????

I recently purchased a Canon 10-22 wide angle for my 20D and have been alternately alarmed and amazed at what it does. What is your impression, if you shoot with one?

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Old 07-26-2005   #2 (permalink)
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It's a fantastic lens. I've heard groans and complaints regarding the price of admission. But it is worth it in my estimate.



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Old 07-26-2005   #3 (permalink)
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Ok, here's my impression. It's a fun lens and Wiiiiddddddeeeee! I had some real fun on Sunday taking photos outside with kids. Here is one that I liked taken at kid level of two very active boys...



I really like the very wide DOF and the fact that I don't need to use the viewfinder to get them in. I realize that one of them is only partially in the frame, but I kind of like that effect, actually.


And my granddaughter visited in June. I took some inside shots of her and found it very hard to stop her 'action' with this lens without a flash, but got some neat ones. Here's one....
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She's a cutie, isn't she...or am I biased?
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Mine don't look sharp compared to yours. I've been concerned about how sharp (or NOT sharp my lens is/isn't)...hmmmmm...maybe I'm just not holding it still enough...

Should mount it on a tripod and give it a REAL workout!
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Old 07-26-2005   #5 (permalink)
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Mine don't look sharp compared to yours. I've been concerned about how sharp (or NOT sharp my lens is/isn't)...hmmmmm...maybe I'm just not holding it still enough...

Should mount it on a tripod and give it a REAL workout!
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Are you shooting in raw mode? If so, maybe you need to do a little more sharpening on the photos.
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Yes, I DO shoot in raw and have toned down the sharpening. Could be you are correct. I'll check it out.

Thanks,
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*lust*

sooo... poor....

But hey, Christmas is only 5 months from yesterday.
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I heard its a great lens and am planning on buying it as my next one. I would like to hear others opinions on it as well. Those are all lovely photos posted here.
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Here's one from today and it IS sharpened. Should it be this soft? Let me get the EXIF info for you...



Taken at f16 and 1/160th second at 10mm. Should the daisies be less blurry? I was pretty close to them!

And this one...


This was shot at 15mm, f16 at 1/160th second....again, really close to the daisies.

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Here's one from today and it IS sharpened. Should it be this soft? Let me get the EXIF info for you...
How did you sharpen the photos? There are different settings in photoshop. You can sharpen a little or sharpen a lot. Also if you are sharpening the large file then scaling the picture down for posting then you will loose the sharpness. You will have to sharpen the scaled down photo.
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I think I did sharpen, then reformat to smaller, lower quality jpeg. Still these don't look as sharp as they should. I think I'll go again tomorrow with a tripod and try again. That should tell the story!! I wonder if I have a very soft version of this lens. I've suspected so for quite awhile.

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I think I did sharpen, then reformat to smaller, lower quality jpeg. Still these don't look as sharp as they should. I think I'll go again tomorrow with a tripod and try again. That should tell the story!! I wonder if I have a very soft version of this lens. I've suspected so for quite awhile.

Beth
Are you using Unsharp Mask in photoshop?

If so what are the settings?
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I think I did sharpen, then reformat to smaller, lower quality jpeg. Still these don't look as sharp as they should. I think I'll go again tomorrow with a tripod and try again. That should tell the story!! I wonder if I have a very soft version of this lens. I've suspected so for quite awhile.

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Are you using Unsharp Mask in photoshop?

If so what are the settings?


Yes, unsharp mask

Amount 200%
Radius 0.4
Threshold 0

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I think I did sharpen, then reformat to smaller, lower quality jpeg. Still these don't look as sharp as they should. I think I'll go again tomorrow with a tripod and try again. That should tell the story!! I wonder if I have a very soft version of this lens. I've suspected so for quite awhile.

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Are you using Unsharp Mask in photoshop?

If so what are the settings?


Yes, unsharp mask

Amount 200%
Radius 0.4
Threshold 0

Ok that looks good for a large photo but would over sharpen a scaled down photo. If you would like for me to try one of your photos then email it to me at photosbymorgan2@charter.net and I will work on it and post the result.
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Here's another one sharpened AFTER resizing

Amount 200%
Radius 0.4%
Threshold 0



Does this one look any better?

Still looks awfully soft to me!!
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Here's another one sharpened AFTER resizing

Amount 200%
Radius 0.4%
Threshold 0



Does this one look any better?

Still looks awfully soft to me!!
Looks soft to me also
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Old 07-27-2005   #17 (permalink)
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Morgan,

I'm emailing you one of these shots in raw format. It takes forever as I have a very slow dial-up connection.

I found another one that seems sharper...it was a windy day and at 1/160th of a second, I suppose things could have been in movement. The ocean was churning too. Try this one...



Is that better? Nope, still looks soft!! Yikes! This is disturbing! Why would it look sharp when I look at the small jpeg version, but not in full raw?

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Morgan,

I'm emailing you one of these shots in raw format. It takes forever as I have a very slow dial-up connection.

I found another one that seems sharper...it was a windy day and at 1/160th of a second, I suppose things could have been in movement. The ocean was churning too. Try this one...



Is that better? Nope, still looks soft!! Yikes! This is disturbing! Why would it look sharp when I look at the small jpeg version, but not in full raw?

Beth
I cannot answer that but will work on the photo when I get home and post the results and what I did.
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Old 07-27-2005   #19 (permalink)
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The photo has been sending for about 30 minutes and is still only 1/2 gone! I told you it was slow!!

I'll be really curious to see what you get cause I'm having this problem despite the lens I use. I took some shots with my 28-135 IS this AM AND with my 100-400 and they ALL are soft. I'm beginning to wonder if it's my camera or PS. Or it's ME! I'm just not the rock solid camera holder that I used to be Could be!!

I AM going out again tomorrow with a tripod and shutter release cord to try again to see what I can get that way. If it's still soft, ....I'll be pretty upset!

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