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Old 08-01-2007   #1 (permalink)
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As I'm mostly taking landscapes, I'm used to using wide angle lenses (Sigma 10-20mm on 350D usually at the short end). On the 5D I currently use (hypothetically since the weather is really rubbish so far this summer) the EF 24-105mm. But it's not wide enough for me, so I'm in search of a proper wide angle lens. The Canon EF16-35mm f2.8L USM II looks great, but it's way too expensive (over £1K) and I certainly don't need the f/2.8 for landscapes (where I use mostly the f/11-f/22 range). So I've been looking around and found a few candidates, all having their up and down sides. What would be your choice and why? Any other suggestions?
- Sigma 12-24mm F4-5.6 EX DG: insanely wide on full-frame sensor that makes it really attractive. But the protruding lens makes is impossible to use any filter other than gelatin filters. Distortions are pronounced, but that's to be expected.
- Sigma 15-30mm F3.5-4.5 EX DG: fairly wide and cheap. But again protruding lens makes it impossible to use filters. Distortions are pronounced and image quality isn't great.
- Sigma 17-35mm f2.8 EX DG HSM: I don't have any information or test data about this lens.
- Canon EF 17-40mm f4 LUSM: pretty good lens all round, with normal distortions at the wide end but good picture quality. The downside is that it's not that wide (although nearly equivalent to the Sigma 10-20mm on a cropped body I'm used to, so acceptable).
I'm disappointed I couldn't find non fish-eye prime lenses at around 12 to 16mm for FF bodies.


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17mm on a full frame is plenty wide. You can deal with some pretty scary linear distortion at 15+.

The Sigma 15-30 is noisy, it needs HSM.

Here is a picture taken with a 17-40, but I think it might not be full 17
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The 17-40 is a really good wide lens imo.
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Cedric,
I have the 12-24 from Sigma. It is a great lens.
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Ok, so the comments narrow it down to the Canon 17-40 or the Sigma 12-24. The really big issue I have against the Sigma is the fact that I can't add a filter. I can possibly live (with difficulty) without ND grads, but I can't see how I could live without polarisers
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Rense, did you use the Sigma on the 5D? How are the vignetting and the sharpness?
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Get the 17-40L. It's a fantastic piece of glass.
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I'm disappointed I couldn't find non fish-eye prime lenses at around 12 to 16mm for FF bodies.
...Canon EF14mmF2.8L USM, €1800 pricerange

...or Canon EF15mmF2.8fisheye USM, de-fished... €625 pricerange...

...from what I know, *I* would go for the 17-40F4L, several serious testers have reported this lens to be sharper corner-to-corner than the 16-35L II...

...& perhaps this might help a little ?

...€0.02...

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several serious testers have reported this lens to be sharper corner-to-corner than the 16-35L II...
Even the II? Yikes, I guess unless you really need the f/2.8....
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The 12-24 is too wide for a polarizer, anyway. At that extreme just a small portion of the sky will be affected by the polarizer and the sky will show banding.

You might be able to get away with a large square graduated ND filter hand-held against the built-in lens hood. I actually have not tried my 12-24 with my 5D. I should go do that some day soon. Right now I'm hooked on the Canon 15mm fisheye.
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Cedric i have a 17-35 L lens F2.8 for sale if you are interested or if you have a macro lens we could do a swap i believe you are in aberdeen i am based just south of you in between aberdeen and forfar let me know if you are interested

btw it takes 77mm screw on filters of which i tend to use either hoya and b & w.
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cedric,
vignetting is not that much of a problem (when you donot forget to remove the petal lenshood).

Sharpness is good from f/8 onward.
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An example from the 17-40.
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The 17-40L is next on my lens list.
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The 15 fish can be fun on a 5D
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The 17-40L is next on my lens list.
When ladies say that they will eventually get it, they will get it. Girl power I guess
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I've got a bunch of 15mm/5D images on Flickr at http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=fish...16343927%40N00

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When ladies say that they will eventually get it, they will get it. Girl power I guess
It may not be until next year though. You know what my last purchase was.
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I know Athena, and what a hefty purchase that was. You are after a monitor too, am I right (I just got mine, Dell 24).


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