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I am looking for a decent ND filter 10 stops , 77mm , but not an expensive one ... do you have any suggestion ...my budget is 50$...Thanks

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Good and inexpensive are oxymorons. You can get good and you can get cheap, but you can't get them both. I doubt you'll find much for $50 especially at 77mm.

I've heard good things about the big stopper, it's 10 stops and people who have it seem to be happy with it. I personally don't have one, but have been thinking of getting it. The cheaper ND filters are not neutral and will give you pretty bad color shifts. Also if you go too cheap, it might degrade your image, just like the cheap protective filters people put in front of their lenses.
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Rob is right regards cheap filters and colour casts but if you are willing to increase your budget by 20 dollars you can get the Hoya 77mm ProND1000 Filter from amazon for $70 and this has no colour cast and retains very good image quality. I have the 82mm version at double the price but well worth it.
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Thanks Rob and Mark for your comments ...probably i will increase budget to 70$, however while I am searching I came through a brand known as HAIDA and I found this review : Neutral Density Filters: Are Haida Filters as good as B+W? | FLOWTOGRAPHY BERLIN TEXT
I hope there is someone aroud who is familiar with this brand to advise and comment
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Personally I am not fond of round ND filters. Either straight ND or graduated ND. My system is the Lee system. They are expensive, however they are far more versatile as they will fit on virtually any lens.

While expensive I have built my system over several years. The LEE 100mm Camera Filter System - Includes Filter Holders, Adaptor Rings and Lens Hoods
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Personally I am not fond of round ND filters. Either straight ND or graduated ND. My system is the Lee system. They are expensive, however they are far more versatile as they will fit on virtually any lens.

While expensive I have built my system over several years. The LEE 100mm Camera Filter System - Includes Filter Holders, Adaptor Rings and Lens Hoods
Thanks for your input but Lee is certainly beyond my budget
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If it's cheap your looking for then stop by Lowes or Home Depot and pick up a piece of replacement welder glass and it will give you 10 stops and cost less than 10 bucks. The color is a horrendous green color but if you shoot in raw its fairly easy to correct up to a point anyway. To use it you need a lens with a petal hood, reverse the hood then use rubber bands to hold it on.

I only tried it once and here is an example at F16 283 seconds iso 100. Should have used F8 and about 100 seconds, I had to push this in post over a stop and it increased the noise level substantially and killed my DR! Paul
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Good and inexpensive are oxymorons. You can get good and you can get cheap, but you can't get them both. I doubt you'll find much for $50 especially at 77mm.
Fully agreed. Colour casts, uneven light reduction, etc on cheap filters. Better to do nothing, or get a welding filter as below.

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Thanks Rob and Mark for your comments ...probably i will increase budget to 70$, however while I am searching I came through a brand known as HAIDA and I found this review : Neutral Density Filters: Are Haida Filters as good as B+W? | FLOWTOGRAPHY BERLIN TEXT
I hope there is someone aroud who is familiar with this brand to advise and comment
Do you want to be an early adopter and have a filter with essentially zero resale value?
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If it's cheap your looking for then stop by Lowes or Home Depot and pick up a piece of replacement welder glass and it will give you 10 stops and cost less than 10 bucks. The color is a horrendous green color but if you shoot in raw its fairly easy to correct up to a point anyway. To use it you need a lens with a petal hood, reverse the hood then use rubber bands to hold it on.
Or on eBay (search for "welding filter nd"). I did quite a bit of this before getting the fotodiox 145mm 10-stop filter. Cheaper than Lowes etc.

A shade 8 filters is about 9 stops. A shade 9 is about 12; 10 about 14. There are variations, so testing is the way to go.

I found that a shade 9 cannot be corrected in LR - too much green tint. But it can be corrected in RawTherapee and maybe PS. If you shoot with a grey card, the filter can be accurately corrected, and looks pretty good, air inclusions and all. Shade 8, at least the one I have, can just barely be corrected in LR.

Holding it on the lens can be done with rubber bands, but for surety and light leaks, gluing a threaded ring to the filter (epoxy) is the way to go.

then drape a black cloth (aka black t-shirt) over the whole thing, and block the eyepiece with gaffer tape (or the proper blocking piece that should have come with the camera).

Here's a welding filter with a glued-on ring:


And here's a sample output:
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How to do Long Exposure Photography for 1$ :
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