Grain Elevator as requested - PhotoCamel

Goofup · 09-25-2007

As requested by Rense, here's the grain elevator picture he wanted me to post in the BW forum just so you guys could play with it. I did kinda "straight" version:

The original color version (along with the original BW version I did) is here:

One for KMA Dakota- grain elevator

You all have fun!

Rense · 09-25-2007

Here is my go of it:

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jfrancho · 09-25-2007

I like the pop, Rense, but the you seem to have brought out some blotchiness in sky.

Arizona · 09-25-2007

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Originally Posted by jfrancho

I like the pop, Rense, but the you seem to have brought out some blotchiness in sky.

The issues of working with B&W in 8 bit. A little noise filter in the sky might buff it out. Good tones though.

It is kind of blotchy to begin with as well.

jfrancho · 09-25-2007

The blotchiness is mostly in the red channel. You might be right about the editing in 8bit/channel, but there are only 256 shades to work with anyway. I think the source could also be the original jpg compression. I'll have my rendition in a bit.

Arizona · 09-25-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by jfrancho

I think the source could also be the original jpg compression.

I think you are right.

Also, I do see areas such as the sky get chopped up when working in 8 bit as opposed to 16, especially in B&W. The tale is in the histogram and of course the eye, but in 8 bit the histogram turns into a comb. Watch it as you edit.

jfrancho · 09-25-2007

I did all this in 8 bit/channel mode, just for fun, I guess. The first thing I did was build a mask for the sky and saved it as a channel. Then I used Noise Ninja with this mask to clean up the sky.

For the mono conversion, I used two channel mixer adjustment layers, using opposing versions of the sky mask. For the CM settings, I like to start with the TLR actions, and then tweak them. I'd make my own, but Mitch has already done the work

. Since I didn't feather or blur the layer masks, there were some gaps at the seams letting some color in, so I merged all the visible layers into a new layer and slapped a Hue/Sat adjustment layer on it using a clipping mask. Here is PrtScn of it at that point:

click through to see full size PrtScn

The final touch was the high pass filter in two passes to sharpen it up a bit. There were a lot of jpeg artifacts that I should have cleaned up, but this is for the web, and you get the idea.

Rense · 09-25-2007

nice one jfrancho.
I was thinking along the same lines to make a better image but didn't have the time to work it out. Thanks for showing this to us.

jfrancho · 09-25-2007

I had help -- you already rendered that great looking high contrast look to the building, which is what I tried to emulate in mine. I just changed the sky.

Rense · 09-26-2007

3 times layering the L-channel in multiply mode gives:

09-25-2007	#1 (permalink)
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Rense Camel Breath Location: Arnhem Posts: 16,670 CamelKarma: 19443 Editing OK?: Yes Gallery \| Blog	Re: Grain Elevator as requested Here is my go of it: .
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jfrancho Camel Breath Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 11,439 CamelKarma: 3070 Editing OK?: No Gallery \| Blog	Re: Grain Elevator as requested I like the pop, Rense, but the you seem to have brought out some blotchiness in sky.
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09-25-2007	#5 (permalink)
jfrancho Camel Breath Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 11,439 CamelKarma: 3070 Editing OK?: No Gallery \| Blog	Re: Grain Elevator as requested The blotchiness is mostly in the red channel. You might be right about the editing in 8bit/channel, but there are only 256 shades to work with anyway. I think the source could also be the original jpg compression. I'll have my rendition in a bit.
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09-25-2007	#7 (permalink)
jfrancho Camel Breath Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 11,439 CamelKarma: 3070 Editing OK?: No Gallery \| Blog	Re: Grain Elevator as requested I did all this in 8 bit/channel mode, just for fun, I guess. The first thing I did was build a mask for the sky and saved it as a channel. Then I used Noise Ninja with this mask to clean up the sky. For the mono conversion, I used two channel mixer adjustment layers, using opposing versions of the sky mask. For the CM settings, I like to start with the TLR actions, and then tweak them. I'd make my own, but Mitch has already done the work . Since I didn't feather or blur the layer masks, there were some gaps at the seams letting some color in, so I merged all the visible layers into a new layer and slapped a Hue/Sat adjustment layer on it using a clipping mask. Here is PrtScn of it at that point: click through to see full size PrtScn The final touch was the high pass filter in two passes to sharpen it up a bit. There were a lot of jpeg artifacts that I should have cleaned up, but this is for the web, and you get the idea.
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09-25-2007	#8 (permalink)
Rense Camel Breath Location: Arnhem Posts: 16,670 CamelKarma: 19443 Editing OK?: Yes Gallery \| Blog	Re: Grain Elevator as requested nice one jfrancho. I was thinking along the same lines to make a better image but didn't have the time to work it out. Thanks for showing this to us.
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jfrancho Camel Breath Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 11,439 CamelKarma: 3070 Editing OK?: No Gallery \| Blog	Re: Grain Elevator as requested I had help -- you already rendered that great looking high contrast look to the building, which is what I tried to emulate in mine. I just changed the sky.
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