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Old 04-26-2009   #17 (permalink)
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Default Re: New PC spec questions?

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Originally Posted by 00silvergt View Post
Hey, Daniel, it's me chopped liver...LOL...I didn't recommend AMD, because by their own admission in a seminar, when compared to the i7 or the Nehalem, their processors are still performing a little behind, but that's because the are clocked much slower than the intels due to the process they use 45nm and the heat limitations, the new Shanghai core (opteron) has Intel nervous since it will scale to an Octo-core before Intel can and AMD has been doing the integrated Northbridge first, something intel is just now implementing with the i7 and Nehalem. So when AMD takes it's next step up (according to AMD, it will be 3rd quarter 2009 or 1st quarter 2010), AMD's will be clocked up as fast or faster than the Intels. AMD is also doing this mind you with DDR2 800, from the seminar I attended, AMD has no plans to go to DDR3 1066 as Intel has done. They figured the modest gain in performance v. the High cost would offset the system cost. (they mentioned going to DDr3 when the prices drop) Which is AMD's strongest selling point, they are a cheaper, yet valid alternative to Intel. At least for now, anyway.
You're definitely spot on, AMD can in no way compete with Core 2 Quads or the Nehalem i7, and they can barely compete in the dual core market as well, but they are all much cheaper than their Intel-made counterparts. For instance, the Phenom II 240 clocked at 3 GhZ is less than $200 (190 at newegg), while the Q9400 clocked at 2.66 GhZ is around $220+, but the Q9400 kicks the crap out of the 940 on nearly all benchmarks at factory settings, yet its still a good processor. Price has always been the huge selling factor for AMD over Intel. The Nehalem, however, just blows EVERYTHING out of the water, its fast and has an integrated memory controller which makes everything run way faster, and a ridiculous FSB, but its EXPENSIVE (especially the 965 Extreme).

I hadn't heard the Shanghai was going octo-core, thats ridiculous! The Shanghai is still the 45nm process as well though, unless its changed? But by the time AMD comes out with its next newest processors (the Phenom II's came out only a few months ago) Intel will drop prices on the Nehalem and they'll have something out on the horizon... its a neverending process that drives computers to be faster and faster!
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